I'm calling out Peppers...

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  1. Ski-Whiz

    Ski-Whiz George Halas Staff Member

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    I've watched him specifically, and he's not playing at full speed. It's like he's playing bitter because of Lovie.

    Watch him play for a quarter, or the whole game... He's dogging it!

    Don't come at me with paper stats. Yes, his stats are average, and have a couple of peaks, but he's not Peppers like we know him.

    Where is his VETERAN leadership? He should be more vocal. He's winded and quiet..

    I think he's done!
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    A lot of us have been saying that all year. He is not playing well.

    Give me all the double team talk you want. He has been double teamed his whole career and excelled.
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    How do you play the cap and his contract based on the lack of production?
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    Ski-Whiz George Halas Staff Member

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    I didn't see a lot of double teaming today. I don't remember it much last week either.

    I see more and more players dogging it, but I expect peppers to do more.
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    Does Briggs have a talk with him ?
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    I've been saying this all year. After this season, they need to dump Peppers and McClellin to bring in some new blood. And play CornWash, damn it!
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    He has stunk this year no doubt about it. Why is the question.
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    not being effective is one thing but not giving full speed, and its obvious is another.

    how can you play at half speed and get away with it? Clearly the staff sees this??!?!
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    Players, even the best players, get old. Peppers has been playing injured, and in this particular game he was playing injured according to the injury report this week. Nagging injuries seem to mount up with old players, so maybe this is one contributing factor.

    Players can't help getting old. Walter Payton, Butkus, Sayers, hell all of them eventually got old. I don't believe he's not giving 100%. It's just that his 100% isn't what it was when he was younger and injury free.
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    So excuses are

    Week 1-injured
    Week 2- sick
    Week 3- sick
    Week 4- double teamed
    Week 5- Old

    Time to stop the excuses. He has been a dog this year
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    You DO understand that there is no fountain of youth, right? The guy is getting old. You guys sound like we should take him out and put a bullet in his head for getting old.

    All players. Even the best who've ever played the game - eventually get old and their play drops off. You guys DO understand this, right?
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    Well, if he is getting old (and not dogging it) then cut him. He is doing more harm than good.

    Not sure though, his decline might be the fastest in NFL history.
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    Then rest him til he is 100%. I think Bass had a tackle today,which was one more than Peppers had.
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    When a player is no longer able (or willing) to contribute, you need to cut ties with them
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    His career is winding down. Payton's career started tapering after '84. He played until '87, each year worse than the previous one. He had 500 or so yards rushing his last season.

    Every "star" we've ever had, went down this path when they got old. There is no way to turn back the hands of time. David, I know you've watched football a long time and you understand this. Some don't. Hell half the people here probably were not even born when Payton played.

    Players get old. There is no stopping this. It's "Football 101" and always has been.
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    Pepper's career isn't winding down.

    He went from dominating to non-existent in less than a year
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    I figure the guy is giving everything he has to give, but he's simply not the player he once was. I've watched Chicago Bears stars do this for over 50 years now. All the great ones. Eventually they get old. Their play drops off. Some quicker than others.

    Walter Payton was a shadow of his former self towards the end. But I figured he was just old, and always appreciated him for the "good years" he gave Chicago. Same with all the stars. Same (for me) with Julius Peppers. I'm not angry with the guy. Actually, I feel very sad that this day has come. I felt the same way when Walter (and all of the "Great Ones" of the past half-century) came to the end of their careers. Sad, man. Real sad.

    But you Bears fans feel free to hate on him. Carry on.
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    Not saying I hate him. Far from it. But he is not helping the team. And unfortunately, as great as he once was, when a player stops contributing, you must cut ties for the good of the team. You do not let him hang around because you have a soft spot for him, or because you hold out a sliver of hope that he will some how have a good game or two.
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    Benj, I'm just as frustrated as you are. It's a bad situation. But honestly, Trestman doesn't have many options right now. Here's our depth chart. Not much there for a "Plan B" until the off-season.
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    Yes, I already said he's old. But whether the problem with him now is age, injury, dogging it, or all three, the operative question is whether he can still play better than his back-up (Bass). The Giants offensive line sucks. If he doesn't produce against them, it's time to throw Bass in there and see what he can do. If Collins is out, then slide Wootton to tackle and split the LDE time 50/50 between McClellin and CornWash. Bear coaches need to get real and deal with the situation...

    DON'T STAND PAT WITH A LOSING HAND!

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