Interesting Look At Some Mocks..........

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  1. riczaj01

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    Grizz you are over valuing Donald then, no one at 14 is that much higher or lower in vlaue then the others that are ranked in that area. No team is looking at Donald as the MUST have and everyone else as the consolation prize, same w/just about everyone outside of the top 5-8 in this draft.

    Nix can play NT in a 3-4 and 4-3, and can play DT in a 4-3 also, so while not a "classic" 4-3 DT he's not limited to ONLY 3-4 NT either. The inj concern is an issue, but that's up to the Bears and other teams Medical guys to decide if he's okay, we'll never know.
     
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    He has value for us because he is a perfect fit schematically. I'm not in the "Donald or bust" club at 14, and I think if we get someone else we have plenty of real good options in the 2nd/3rd. If Nix is there in the 2nd then maybe, but I still would take Quarles, Jernigan, Hageman over him if it came down to it. Donald is clearcut our best option for what we need right now. Down the road unlike other guys he will be handcuffed to that 3tech most likely but if we really are in a "win now" state then he probably comes in and provides the biggest impact to our D this year.
     
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    how do you know what the Bears need right now though? I'm not saying you are wrong, or that he's not your standard Lovie 4-3 DT, but WE as fans have NO idea what Tucker wants out of his D players right now, other then they'll run mostly 4-3 and SOME 3-4. That's all WE know. We are all projecting what the Bears need w/out knowing what they want to do.

    If they need a small fast 4-3 DT then ya Donald is the guy, but that isn't how EVERY 4-3 works and Tucker might not want to run his 4-3 that way.
     
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    Whomever they select, I think we can all be grateful that Jerry Angelo won't be doing the selecting.
     
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    That's always been my opinion of "Domer" linemen. They aren't lousy but they never produce in the NFL like they did in college. They get hyped a lot and then typically disappoint at the pro level. And you're right. Many times it's not JUST the linemen, Brady Quinn cough cough.

    I toss Nix and Hageman along with Tuitt into the same barrel. The 3-4 only barrel where all they really need to be is space eaters. What gets me about some of these mocks which have or had us taking Nix or Hageman they all say the same thing. The Bears need to get bigger inside to stop the run. That of course triggers my pissy attitude about those aholes who couldn't take the time to look at all of what's been done in FA to relieve that problem. It's like they wrote that opinion in January and then took of for the Gulf of Mexico to chase whores and fish for marlin and yet they get paid for writing that crap?

    Donald or Jernigan are useful day one as DTs although Donald will be the better of the two as a pass rusher. If they grab a Safety first then fold back to guys like Quarles or Johnson, Sutton or Reid farther down. I truly believe Donald is their guy if he's there. I think Pryor and Fuller are fall back picks and maybe Jernigan if it has to be a DT but for him or Fuller I could see them dropping back a bit and taking whoever is left. If they add another 3rd that gives them some leverage to trade up in two if they feel the need or gives them two decent 3rd round picks. This is not a spot where you take any risks with this pick and Nix and Hageman are both risks.
     
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    Donald would be a good fit, make the loss of Melton a bit easier to take.
     
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    I can't make up my mind how much of a loss Melton is. Anywhere from a good player to a potential great player. Given our cap and all of that, if we can replace him with a similar talent for less from the draft, it will even out. I'm concerned about how to get a long term replacement for Peppers/Allen given that I don't expect us to be drafting in to top 5 any time soon.
     
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    #28 dachuckster, Apr 12, 2014
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    That article makes me want him even more (in a football kind of sense of course)
     
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    I like him too of course for 14. But if there's anything that gives me a bit of pause it's that his height is such that he prob couldn't put on much more mass (for run D) without compromising his quickness. Maybe I'm wrong there. Melton and Atkins were Donald's approx size but were able to bulk up to ~300. AD is likely maxed out at around 285-290. Does that make a significant difference? I don't know, above my pay grade

    Pryor is growing on me the more I read (also reading that Dix is almost surely gone by 13). Now how much better a prospect is he compared to Buchannon? Way better?? If so, he's a logical choice in the 1st. If not, then you gotta consider that Buchannon should be there at 51 (or even with a small 2nd round trade down) and he's 6'1" 211, ran a 4.49, and racked up 15 picks vs solid competition in his college career. The Bears have met with both of them so Phil should have a solid picture of the pros and cons between them.
     

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