Is David Fales the Next Josh McCown in Training?...............

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  1. soulman

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    New Bears on the Block: David Fales

    Could the youngster be this year's Josh McCown?
    By James Neveau
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    With the Chicago Bears’ training camp in Bourbonnais looming just around the corner, Grizzly Detail is taking a look at some of the new players donning jerseys this season, and today we stick with the offensive side of things as we take a look at rookie quarterback David Fales.

    The Details:
    Fales is a guy that wasn’t listed in the top tier of quarterbacks in the 2014 draft, only being drafted in the sixth round by the Bears, but he has some really solid numbers that rivaled those of players like Blake Bortles and Teddy Bridgewater. He completed 64.1% of his passes in 2013, throwing for 4189 yards and 33 touchdowns on the season for San Jose State. That total, combined with the 4193 yards he had in 2012, made him one of only two quarterbacks in the NCAA to throw for over 4000 yards in consecutive seasons, joining Derek Carr out of Fresno State in that category.

    What the Bears Hope He Will Bring:
    The team has been insistent that Jordan Palmer is the back-up quarterback as training camp nears, but Fales is looked at as the guy who will likely be backing up Jay Cutler long-term. He has a ton of speed on his throws, and even though he doesn’t throw the deep ball like Cutler can, he has tremendous timing on his tosses, a la Josh McCown. That is the essence of what Marc Trestman and the coaching staff want: a confident quarterback with great timing and one that gets rid of the ball quickly, and when you add in his outstanding work ethic, you have a player that this coaching staff feels that they can mold.

    Our Take:
    If we had our way, Fales would be the back-up and beat out Palmer and Jimmy Clausen for the position. He has a ton of attributes that really impressed us during his college days, with his well-timed throws and ability to motivate his teammates often shining through when he was on the field. The Bears aren’t a team that’s lacking in leadership, but it’s good to see a player that can seize the moment and be that guy when necessary.

    One thing that we would like to see Fales work on is his mobility in the pocket. He doesn’t have the quickest feet, and his internal clock seems to run a tick slower than it should. The Bears’ offensive line is very good, but an NFL quarterback still has to be able to survey the field, digest the information, and make the throw at a much faster rate than they do in the Mountain West Conference.

    Even with that in mind though, Fales still has the potential to be a very solid NFL quarterback. He doesn’t have superstar upside, but then again, what quarterbacks do? He is just like McCown except younger, and considering Trestman’s success in working with the wily veteran, he should be able to work wonders with this youngster.


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  2. soulman

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    I suppose it's possible but FWIW so far I can see as many differences as I can similarities between the two starting with size since McCown is 2" taller and about 12-15lbs heavier. McCown also has mobility I'm not sure Fales has but I guess we'll need to wait until we see him play to be certain.

    The similarities are probably more in their arm strength and how they use timing on their throws more than a guy with a cannon like Cutler has does. McCown could throw deep as long as he could put some air under the ball, throw to a spot, and let the receiver go up and make the catch. I suspect Fales will be somewhat the same.

    Let's face it the likelihood of getting a Jay Cutler like backup are pretty slim. Guys with an arm like that and his athleticism aren't usually relegated to playing second string so we'll have to be more content with guys who are clones of McCown. Is Fales that type of QB? Maybe, his college stats are impressive enough even for a small school guy.

    What I don't see though is Fales beating out either Palmer or Clausen for that #2 this year. At best he elevates his game in camp and preseason and either Palmer or Clausen fail and he takes the third chair away from one of them. Going into camp I'd probably give that a 50/50 shot of happening with the other 50% being Fales ends up on the PS.
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    Agreed. That article was a bit heavy on the "July optimism" scale IMO. A 6th rounder from SJSU is very likely a good way from being NFL-ready even as a #2. I'm glad to hear he seems to have good timing but I rolled my eyes at the "tremendous speed on his throws" line. Fales wouldn't have lasted until the 6th if he had a good arm ("good" still being well below Cutler's). He is known in fact to have a rather weak arm so he is going to have to rely on accuracy and timing to compensate for inability to rifle the ball into tight spaces. Then there's the fact that he isn't that mobile and is a fair bit smaller than McCown.

    All in all, Id be shocked of the team handed the #2 keys to a late round rookie. The #3/clipboard holder role is much more realistic and he may not even warrant that if he can be signed to the PS. There's no rush here. The 2015 preseason is when Fales might realistically beat out a veteran for the primary backup role.
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    Yeah when I saw that line about "tremendous speed" all I could think of is that they must be talking about a quick release because he doesn't throw wind defying spirals like Cutler can.
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    I don't see Fales being the #2 this season. At best he's a "project' this year......a 6th round QB project at that. Backup QB's in the NFL get very little work once the season begins, so why on earth would we go with a green-as-a-gourd 6th rounder to trust our season to when Jay goes down with his annual injury? Not going to happen.

    Trestman will go with one of the two vets at #2. At best Fales will be the #3 guy but more likely will probably be shuffled to the PS. And I don't think we have any fear that another team will claim him if we go the PS route. I think we're safe there.
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    Agreed. This guy either doesn't understand how the game is played when it comes to protecting your ass when your team is expected to be in a playoff hunt or he's writing with his heart and not his head.

    Ever since Emery arrived he's shown that he's not about to let this team make another Caleb Hanie type mistake. The #2 guy is gonna have to be a vet with at least some degree of experience playing or sitting as a #2 elsewhere.

    If he zooms past the other two I could see a 50/50 chance for him as the #3 but mainly because they don't want to risk trying to get him through waivers. I still think it's more likely that Palmer and Clausen end up on the roster.
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    That's how I hope it pans out by the time we get to late August. Unless there's an injury or one of them looks absolutely horrible in preseason, what is to be gained by cutting a cheap vet QB?

    The team has already signaled they will keep 3 on the final roster anyway so the only other reason I can see to cut Palmer or Clausen is if they lack confidence in Fales being able to clear waivers. I have a sneaking suspicion that won't end up being a big problem.
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    It takes two for Fales to be signed away from the practice squad.

    Back in the day the Bears tried to sign Matt Hasslebeck from Green Bays practice squad. He saw Wannstedt on one side and Holmgren's entire coaching tree at full strength on the other. He wisely stayed there.

    Fales can do a lot worse than Trestman and company.
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    True but since he'd end up on somebody else's roster with a nice boost in pay the temptation is there. Hopefully he is sold enough on his future here that he would decline but we'd still need to get him through waivers first and if he's claimed that he can't refuse.

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