Just a thought, BUT....if, while Jay is out, the offense looks like it did

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    I would expect a win yes. I always expect wins. Would I think he had a shot in hell? No. But that would not stop me from expecting an NFL player to perform well enough to win a game.
     
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    One offseason is enough for a player to learn a new playbook. For McCown, coming in to a system he was familiar with, maybe about half a season if he's not getting time with the ones. But the team he was walking into did not have any players on offense or an offensive line that was worth a damn. We were limping into Lambeau just looking to make it to the end of the season. Yet, that should have been a W. I understand. You expect wins.
     
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    One off season... so it roughly takes two or three months for a QB (veteran or rookie) to learn a playbook?
     
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    Doesn't "Think" mean the same thing as "Expect" in this case? Maybe you are confusing the word "Expect" with the word "Hope"?

    Expectations are what you think will happen. Like removing your emotions from the equation and rationally thinking about the possible outcome of the game. If you expected a win, then you should have put money down on the Bears to win kind of expectations.

    I did not expect the Bears to win against the Vikings in 2011, but they did. I hoped they would win. I certainly did not expect them to beat the Packers at home fielding the team the Bears had in 2011.
     
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    It's different for a rookie. Rookies don't know NFL game speed in a regular season game. But it depends on the rookie, their innate abilities, and how much of the team's resources are about to be dumped into them. If that rookie is a top ten first round draft pick, he probably going to get a lion's share of the first team QB reps and the coaches attention because there is no one on the team that is going to start.

    If he's just some stiff UDFA, he's going to get a lot of inattention because the coaches have priorities. It's why guys like Brian Griese get signed to different teams after their time as a starter. You aren't having to deal with that learning curve of a QB to NFL speed.

    A vet should be able to pick up a playbook in one offseason, and really know it by year two or three. Depending on their level of effort.
     
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    Nope. I expect/demand a winning effort, but I do not think I will get one.
     
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    Put the discrete mathematics book down.

    If the Bears decided to sign and start Jordan Palmer against Green Bay, would you expect a win? This would give him two weeks to prepare.

    Please note, I have not mentioned Josh McCown in any capacity. Now this is an answerable question in that there is only one hypothetical question.
     
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    Okay. Lets just cut to the chase.

    McCown is garbage. He may have been better than anyone else the Bears could dig up to have as a backup QB, but he is still garbage.

    I do not think he is talented enough to win a meaningful game no matter how much time he has to prepare for it. No matter how good of talent he has around him.

    If he had any talent worth a damn, the Bears wold not be the only NFL team calling to offer him a job.
     
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    Wait, what the hell is a "winning effort"? You said wins. You expect wins.
     
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    A winning effort... play like a professional. Play like you actually can win.

    Every Bear fans expects to win games. It is not that hard to figure out.
     
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