KaDeem Carey very interesting.

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    I know I am getting way ahead here but with the devaluation of the RB in the NFL wondering if this may be the last year for Forte. He will be over 30 which is past the decline of NFL RB's and was one of the last RB's to get a good contract. Seems to have a pretty high Salary Cap number relative to the devaluation of the RB and is relatively inexpensive to cut after next season. Look at his 2015 number.

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    I hope this team doesn't see Carey as a 3 down replacement for Forte, if that was what they drafted him for we are all going to be very disappointed.
     
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    As long as he remains productive Forte will be around and I make the odds of him finishing out his deal pretty high. He had his best year last year at age 27. He's 28 in this his 7th season and he'll be 29 in his 8th in 2015. With an expected increase in the cap of another $10-$12 mil I don't believe his cap number is too high as long as he stays at the top of his game.

    The guy keeps himself in excellent shape and he seems to have gotten better at avoiding the nagging injuries that slowed him down and cost him games a couple of years ago. The only other RB we've had in the last 50 years whose stayed as productive this long was Walter and like Walter I don't see any real sign of decline in Forte's play yet. He plays tough and with a lot of pride in his game.

    Yeah he's reaching his peak years and some RBs hit a wall soon after that so we'll see how it works out but it's all the more reason for needing a competent #2 back. As tough as it is to keep Forte off the field it may become more necessary over the next couple of years if he needs more blows or time to shake off minor dings. But so far he makes it hard for them to take him off the field. They key here is to get guys like Ford and Carey to be able to do much of what he does.
     
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    As of this point, I've seen no reason to worry about Forte. Of course, you always have to have the next man up mentallity and need a good backup for a blow during the game. RB is not vey high on my needs list with the recent pickup -- as long as he seems to know what to do with the football.
     
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    I am looking at his $8.8MM salary next yr solely. Seems out of line in todays NFL.
     
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    Marshawn Lynch is 8.5 mil next year,
    Ray Rice is 8.75
    Shady McCoy is 9.7 mil
    All Day is 14 mil.
    so not sure how out of line it is for a top 5 rb that is the lynchpin of your offense, as stated by your pro bowl G and pro bowl WR.
     
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    here is spotrac for 2014. the following year total cap is shown above. Just sayin it seems high


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    LOL i see there chart up top did not work out so well. Should of used greenshot.
     
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    The more you look at NIU Lynch ...
     
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    Would you rather Forte at 6-8 or the raft of guys signed this year for about 3-3.5 of which some will perform and some will suck. I'd rather Forte.

    Hopefully we give him support to keep him healthy and don't over use him and it might be at some stage we try to spread out his remaining deal and take the price down a bit. But lets see Carey, Ford and others play a bit first.
     
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