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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by soulman, Jul 25, 2014.
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I'd say this is about as expected so far.
A perspective from a very different viewpoint that we all have to get used to.
Therein lies the reason Peppers is standing in the Packers locker room following his release from Chicago. The Packers want Peppers to play a different position than he played with the Bears and complement their defensive star, Clay Matthews, not outplay him.
Peppers agreed to a three-year, $27 million deal that allows the Packers to back out with a manageable deficit if things don't work out this season. Peppers, 34, will make $8.5 million this year, but his salary cap number is only $3.5 million — about $15 million less than what it was scheduled to be in Chicago.
If the Packers cut him after this season, the salary cap hit for 2015 would be a reasonable $5 million.
They persuaded him to take that deal with a player-friendly practice schedule, an opportunity to move from end to outside linebacker and the possibility of winning a Super Bowl ring. The latter has evaded Peppers since the Carolina Panthers drafted him second overall in 2002.
Then there's that thing about expectations. Here, he's not the $91 million man he was in Chicago.
"It's never really been that," Peppers said of needing to carry a defense on his shoulders. "Some people have made it out to be that way at different times, but it's 11 guys on the field always, so everybody has to do their part.
"What I will say is that we have a very talented group of guys on the field here, a lot of depth on the second and third teams, so it's nice to look around and see that much talent."
Since signing with the Packers on March 15, Peppers has been playing outside in coordinator Dom Capers' 3-4 defense, doing things like rushing from an upright position, dropping into coverage and covering tight ends. Peppers expressed an interest in playing outside in a 3-4 after the Bears cut him and in the first three days of training camp that's all he's done.
At 6 feet 7 inches and 287 pounds, Peppers is an imposing figure on the outside. His wingspan is enormous and he uses it to his advantage both as a pass rusher and a pass defender. In the twilight of his career, he's not the player he once was, but he's hoping to find new life in a new defense.
"It's fun," Peppers said. "I'm actually having a lot of fun. I'm enjoying it. It's a little different than what I've been used to in the past. I actually think it fits my skill set better than just being down every play."
From my limited football knowledge everything says this is going to be a failed experiment, when Peppers was a FA from the Panthers he was adamant about only playing in a 4-3 defense, now he wants to be a LB in the last 1-2 years he has left? This reeks of "make some money on my way out the door" all over it.
But....what if less pressure on and off the field works for a guy who never liked the spot light, that him and Clay Mathews overwhelm lines. It sounds like a dream situation, but in reality it it was as simple as this every team would be doing this and overpay two OLBs. So my mind says not happening but deep down I have a fear that it will work.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you Mike.
I've always respected Pep as a player until last year when he seemed to be putting out about 70%-80% of his usual effort. The deal he signed with GB says to me that Pep is now out for Pep and the only two things he wants now is a less challenging job with a paycheck and a shot at a ring.
He was the right player for the Bears as long as Urlacher was around to take on the role of leader of the defense but when he wasn't Pep was unwilling to take up any of the slack and it showed. We did the right thing by releasing him and signing Allen instead because now we have another on field leader in somewhat the same sense that Urlacher was and a better DE to boot.
As far as Pep's ring quest goes I'd like nothing better than to frustrate that too with him watching us take the NFCN and walk into the playoffs while the Packers watch from home for a change.
Now that he's playing LB for G.B.,
PEPPER STATS , 2013 CHICAGO BEARS :
3 games zero tackles ...
6 games one tackle.
He will be missed.
It looked to me like Pep just quit on us last year. Lovie was gone. So was Urlacher. We had some adversity with injuries. And Pep's reaction was to simply quit. Period. He looked like he was just going through the motions out there most of the time. I believe Peppers still has the talent to shine for a few years if he wants to, even in a 3-4 in Green Bay, if he feels like playing at a high level. If his heart isn't into it, he'll loaf in games. But I'll bet he'll be more like when he first came to Chicago - and put forth a season of good effort for GB. The guy is still a physical freak and can turn it on when he wants to (we still saw flashes of that last year in some games).
Well yeah. I mean when he goes up to Emery and tells him to watch him out there today and then turns into a terror and gets 2 1/2 of his 7 sacks in one game. He turned it on and off all year. He's beginning to go into retirement mode and he knows it.
He also knew the Bears weren't gonna keep him at his 2014 cap cost so it was either take a major pay cut and stay here or take a major pay cut and move on. He's in GB to collect one or two last pay days and to get a ring. That about it.
I'm thinking the most promising 'news' about Bostic is this from the top article Soul posted (and thanks): " ... but watching the bad tape, often showing an inexperienced player struggling to diagnose and quickly get in position to make plays ..." I had the same impression but I don't re-watch all-22 game film and take notes. Perhaps Arkush doesn't either but he may talk to people who do?
Regardless, struggling with field vision and such is routine with rookies and gets better. Here's hoping in Bostic's case it get a lot better and fast.
I'd think the same. Peppers is changing positions when his traits seem perfect for DE, and he turns 35 by the end of the season. Sounds like a low-hoper, except the damned Packers aren't stupid enough any more to throw money away on a low-hoper. I'm a little concerned that the new situation will motivate the guy and he will outplay his contract. The Packers are in much the same position as the Bears in that if they can coax their D into a good season they are serious SB contenders.
Whenever coaches describe a player as being "raw" I automatically assume they mean in the skills that allow them to diagnose and respond to plays at the speed they happen in the NFL. That and technique issues. Technique they can coach but the other just comes from repetition in practice so when I hear Trestman trying to squeeze as much of that out of every practice as possible I figure he has the right approach. They say the game slows down for these guys most as they enter their second year so we should see a quantum leap in a few of them Bostic included.