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  1. BSBEARS

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    You like to think these kids were in college and doing stupid shit. From other comments on other topics I am a little more liberal than many on this issue. Although its a shame he was found to be puffin the wacky weed it appears to have give the Bears an opportunity to get a good LB.

    I know a lot of people from college who are guilty of the same thing, most if not all have quit smoking the wacky over time. I had to chuckle the other day when I got called in for a random drug test. I gave the shit up 25+ years ago when defense contractors started random testing and to me it was not worth it to risk my future. My income potential is no where near what these athletes make, but it was an easy decision to leave the party behind and move on with my life. Maybe this is why I am more liberal on what these kids do in college, and I expect most to grow out of it. Its a phase but now that Jones is in the NFL and realizing what he has to lose along with his Parents and coach Herring mentoring him, and the team environment I am pretty sure he has moved on. Moving forward its just not worth it.
     
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    And that's the thing. I think we, and teams in general put a bit too much stock in what someone does in college. Who on here hasn't done anything between the ages of 18-23 that would have been looked at as a 'behavior or character problem' if we were under such a microscope. Hell, I'd venture a guess that 90% of all these kids drafted have done something that might have landed them that label. Only difference between this guy and a guy like Luck who was regarded as such a high character guy is Luck was smart/lucky enough not to get caught. Were talking about 18-23 year olds surrounded by peers in an environment that really reinforces doing stuff like this. Add into the fact they are famous on campus and it's really not that surprising.

    But yeah, if we got a potential 1st round LB because he was smoking weed in the offseason as a UDFA, then I'm grateful to that joint that he used to flunk his test.
     
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    Yep, I agree with both of you. There are things I did in my early 20s I haven't done since and I don't think I lack in character or I wouldn't have been able to accomplish most of what I have.

    Pot is a way of life in Colorado these days and the dispensaries now outnumber the liquor stores in my neighborhood so that oughta tell me something. :blunt: I've smoked my share too although I never inhaled,:bah:............well maybe I did once or twice, and I'm not gonna condemn anyone else for doing it. But..........when your prospects for employment hang in the balance it's no longer a moral or character issue. It's an economic issue.

    Hopefully he gets that.
     
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    The bolded is true and hopefully he can put it behind him. It's now a business decision to partake in those kinda stuff.


    But anyway back to football. Guy was tremendous and versatile guy at FSU and just the fact he played on that defense is an accomplishment. He can use both his talent and his experience in multiple positions and roles to find a way to stick with us. That's really all its about when your in his position. Make it through camp and stick on the roster, and then try to let your day in and day out earn you PT. Hope he can do that.
     
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    OK we all saw the Philly pre-season game ...

    your opinions on Shea McClellin's play ?
     
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    After the first PS game,

    Cut Shea keep green jones and sean. She still cannot shed a block or tackle a rb or put a body on a TE. He's not a NFL player.
     
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    Ric, I thought Shea's issues were primarily mental. He was slow in diagnosing what the O was doing, which made him slow to react - not physically, but the need in the NFL to instantly recognize and react to the O. This is something that can be improved with game reps - or not. But I want to see if he can improve over the course of the 4 preseason games. Bostic also showed he was a bit slow at times diagnosing plays and consequently he blew some plays too. But he certainly made some good plays - which shows the benefit of having played LB for several games last year. There is no substitute at LB for game reps. Physical ability alone doesn't get it done. Also, keep in mind that the difference between playing DE in a 4-3 defense is pretty different from playing LB. It's not valid to think Shea's DE experience = LB experience. Sure, there are some things the same, but a lot of it IS different.

    I really will be looking at the three guys (Shea, Bostic & Greene) and hoping we see improvement over the course of the 4-game preseason. One can hope anyway :-)
     
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    I hope you're right JABF, but he had the same problems at DL last year, sometimes the guy just isn't a baller, and right now imo Shea doesn't look like a baller.
     
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    I figure it could go either way. He could improve, or he could be a bust. I believe they will give him every opportunity in this preseason to show he can play - and if he doesn't show promise he will be gone. It would be great for the team if he can improve and show some value at LB. The entire unit looked rough to me last night except for Briggs (but even Briggs dropped what should have been an int). I'm hoping they all get better over the course of the 4 preseason games.
     
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    I agree with you about McClellin. He has all the physical tools and the football smarts but for whatever reason he's playing on his heels and is slow to react to everything. His pass drops are poor and he's not getting sideline to sideline covering the run. I believe we did this kid a huge disservice playing him at DE for so long. It's affected his confidence and he's feeling the pressure of not wanting to make mistakes so he's no longer using his instincts. He's thinking too much and losing a split second of reaction time whenever he does that.

    Hopefully Herring can get his head straightened out but IMHO they're still using him the wrong way. McClellin made his bones in college by always being on the attack. He played downhill going after the RB behind the LOS and the QB on pass plays. Now he's hesitant to do that. I watched him on that goal line TD run and if he had shot the gap that was right in front of him he could have nailed the RB in the backfield because the OL was wedging up the gut. Instead he hesitated and allowed himself to be blocked out of the play and became a total non-factor. Just one more guy stacked up and pushed back into the end zone. If they don't start to just turn him loose to attack he'll never be the player they expected him to be. Then we'll cut him, someone else will pick him up and put him in a 3-4 and he'll become a good OLB because we continue to fuck up with the way they're playing him.
     
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