McCown not a sure thing

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  1. BearJim

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    I like McCown a lot but I wouldn't offer him more than a 2 yr, 4M contract. If he leaves we could resign Palmer for less than 1/2 of that & maybe draft a guy late or bring in an UDFA as a 3rd arm & possibly delevop.
     
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    First of all Emery left himself in this position and I believe that decision was intentional. He'll deny it but to me it's pretty clear he'd like to usher the Lovie era and those players out the door and replace him with his own. The only problem is that so far he's screwed up royally doing it so that's making it harder to work his plan.

    IMHO when your defense struggled as much as it did last year you DO NOT rid yourself of still productive vets who helped make that defense a top five the year before it's collapse and age had very little to do with that. It was the injuries and extremely bad coaching that did it. Before you send them packing if I'm Emery I'd make damn sure I had competent replacements for them and in most cases he doesn't.

    So he has a dilemma over who to keep and who not to and free agency can only do so much. Unless your buying a top tier guy you're buying another teams castoff who may not even be as good as your castoff. Was Anderson a better SLB than Roach? Nope, he was just a lot cheaper is all and not only did we lose a good SLB but also a MLB who could have played after DWill went down.

    When he decided to let Urlacher go (and make no mistake he did after it became clear he wouldn't just retire) maybe he should have kept Roach and not replaced two starting LBs with cheap vets with no experience in that defense and especially a MLB with an injury history. Philonious Phil outsmarted himself last year big time expecting things that didn't pan out but to his credit he's at least partially admitted it.

    I'm also having a little bit of a hard time buying into the "getting younger" BS when the average age of the Bears players he's re-signed is right at 30 years of age and they average nearly 8 years of NFL experience. I do admit that four of them are valuable starters but the rest are those same cheap vets he signed last year. The only difference is they're his cheap vets as opposed to someone else's.

    So now come the time when he needs to deal with the guys who really count. The rest of the defensive starters from 2012 and early 2013. What's he gonna do now? That's the mystery that keeps us on our heels right now about FA and the draft. He has so many holes to fill and so many of his own players to decide what to do with we can't predict what's gonna happen.
     
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    And I'd agree with you Jim or at least that the offer I'd extend and possibly include some bonus money if he has more starts because Jay takes some hit to his paycheck if he misses them. If Emery had to stretch a little beyond that I wouldn't rule it out but in reality that's where the bonuses come in. It's like we can only afford $2 mil for this but if you do more than that then there's extra money for you but it doesn't count against the 2014 cap.
     
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    Anderson was a better Sam than roach....I don't get how you can say he wasn't.
     
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    I'm with ya Soul. I'd have no problem making it an incentive laden contract. If he ends up playing a lot he definitely should get more $$.
     
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    Excellent point about the bonuses.

    The market value for "high end" vet backups (Cassell, Daniels, Campbell) has been about $3-4m/yr lately. Now McCown is older than most so he should command a little less IMO. And I think he really does want to stay (not just bs from his mouth) for reasons we have been over many times, so a 2yr/$4m or so deal with some incentive bonus money is reasonable from the Bears and might be enough to put ink on paper here.

    I have no way to know this but my hunch is that the offer is already on McCown's desk. He will have a few days here soon to field other teams' offers and see if there's any that appeal to him more all things considered. I hope he stays.
     
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    Me too MP.
     
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    only problem w/expecting him to take less is that he had a career year for himself, and most backups in the NFL. He'll get at or above vet money. If he decides to stay w/the Bears he'll have to take less, but it won't be because a tea didn't offer more.

    Butkus3595:
    Anderson and DJ both were great pikups, only inj's derailed that, hell Anderson until all the inj's was probably one of the best D players on the field, been a long time since you could say that about a Bears SAM. DJ was having a damn good year also, those 2 were picking up the sacks where the DL was failing.
     
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    I agree with you there ric.
     
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    Nope. Anderson may or may not have been his equal in pass protection but despite the number of tackles he had against the run he sucked. The only reason he even got that many tackles is because the line sucked, especially McClellin who was playing in front of him and the lousy play by the Safeties. Somebody had make a tackle but when it's 5 or 6 yards beyond the LOS that's not great LB play. If Anderson was that great butkus why aren't we hearing anything about him returning but they say they'd like to have DWill back?
     

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