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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by The Benjamin, Jan 14, 2014.
Bears fire the DL coach and the LB coach, but Tucker remains.
The minions are always the first to go. It's always their fault until its admitted that it isn't.
One thing is certain, next year will be make or break for Mel Tucker.
I have good hope for him, only because I trust The Coach.
oh man..... LOL, I just realized I have to build my trophy point back up :voodoo:
It's possible that Lovie's guys aren't going to work in whatever system Tucker is planning on employing.
Three of the final-four teams this year have a top-10 defense. It's great that our offense is improved, but obviously we need a much better defense if we want to play with the big boys. Here's the top-ten D's for the regular season. Denver isn't in the group, but Peyton Manning makes up for that. We don't have a Peyton Manning.
San Francisco 49ers
New Orleans Saints
Kansas City Chiefs
New England Patriots
We tried to get one, but the rumor is that when they made the first one, his head broke the mold. They don't know to make another mold that big any more.
Bears announce Tucker retained, DaBears forum blows up. Coincidence???
Yes- rushing the passer, tackling, and coverage definitely won't work in the Tucker system. :D
At least there is acknowledgement that the issue is larger than just injuries. I hope Mel is the guy, but I still have my doubts.
How the hell did they not also fire the defensive backs coach? Conte alone should be enough to get somebody fire. Maybe they can find a new DL coach to help CornWash with his pass rush techniques.
Dude, you almost had a point there, until your last sentence.
a few things that I heard over the past several weeks that I wasn't going to bring up until there was a definitive answer.
1) Trestman was REALLY high on Tucker and how well he communicated.
2) Something I didn't know, but during the season the assistants are responsible for the development of players, the coordinators and HC are to buy building a game plan.
3) A lot of people breaking down the game stated the D play calls were normally correct, the problem was in execution; see #2.
4) inj's killed the teams chances of truly knowing if the problem was on the lack of talent or on the DC; BUT Emery stated in the presser a few weeks ago HE didn't do a good enough job of building depth; and admitted Shea wasn't a DE and that was also his fault; AND that Bostic probably wasn't a MLB.
Say what you want, but much like Cutler's contract, Tucker was never getting let go. They scapegoated a few assistants, the LB's coach was obviously deserved, but the DL coach had as many reasons as anyone to stay, and they'll give Tucker a shot to rebuild the D from the ground up and run his system; if there isn't marketable improvement then he'll be let go.
I read that of the 2 assistants that were let go, 1 was a Lovie hire so to be fair and not make it look like it was an all out Lovie blitz they also fired a Trestman hire
might have been bob, but the only assistant they kept was a Lovie hire also, so take it all w/a grain of salt
Well to be fair, Den and NE also had top ten O's also. So the AFC you had 2 teams that were complete and in the NFC you had 2 that have young(cheap) qb's they are protecting w/strong D's and strong running games.
I was on the "Fire Tucker" bandwagon before they fired the two assistants. Now that those guys are gone and I've read a little more about them & the situation, I think it was the right move to get rid of them and give Tucker another shot. As you pointed out, positional coaches are the ones most responsible for player development (or regression, in this situation) and the D-coordinator puts the plan together. From what I've heard, the LB coach was in way over his head. And who knows how good/bad the DL coach really is/was. Plus, the defensive players seem to have Mel's support, except for maybe Briggs & Peppers. That has to mean something, even if it's a small percent of the equation.
Emery/Trestman seem to grasp how badly they need to fix this defense. If I had go guess, based on their track record, they'll bring in some strong guys to coach up the DL & LB's. Add to that healthy players and more talented players (hopefully), the defense might just be average next year (I know that's asking a lot - haha).
Lastly, as far as personnel is concerned, I think DL is the absolute top priority. I know a lot of people want to draft a safety in the first round, but IMO, everything starts in the trenches. Great teams have great lines - offensive or defensive, or both. If I had to draft for this team, I'm going best DL available in round one, and maybe even round 2 - depending on what we do in FA.
mshu7, for me the draft depends on what is the deepest position. if S only has 1 legit star and the rest are kinda eh, then I think you take Ha-Ha Clinton Dix; but if there are S's that are capable of starting day one in the 2-4th rounds then ya grab a DT/DE in the first 2 rounds. Personally I like Truitt if he's there at DE, and Hageman or Nix if he's not.