Mid April Mock

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  1. riczaj01

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    Well above my pay grade to understand how they would do it, but I'm just stuck on how Emery stated they wanted all 4 guys on the field at the same time, and that Allen stated he wanted to play next to Ratliff, could well be that they play 4-3 over w/the NT next to the RDE and Ratty is the NT but that means they have Houston penciled in as the DT and Young as the LDE, at least on passing downs, but then on rush downs you would have Young come off and Paea would be on the field, I just don't see where the Rookie pass rushing DT gets a ton of playing time IF what Emery said was true.
     
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    Its Emerys version of the Hybrid Defense. LOL. yeah I have no idea how they do it either
     
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    Me neither. Just as long as Mel does, we are ok. oh crap.....
     
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    Some of my current thought's. Some may be gone so I included more than one after the first round
    14 Pryor possibly the best safety
    51 double down at safety J Ward or Deone Buchannon. If both gone Phillip Gaines CB from Rice. Gaines is 6' and 193 pounds and run a 4.38 in the 40.
    82 DT time - Ergo Ferguson (LSU) or DaQuan Jones (Penn State) or A Johnson (LSU)
    117 Tight End time - C Fiedorowicz (Iowa) or Xavier Gimble (USC) or Joe Don Duncan (Dixie State)
    156 ILB time - Max Bullough (MS) or Yarwin Smallwood (CT)
    183 QB time - D Fales (San Jose State) or Logan Thomas VT. Logan would need to work on fundamentals, specifically footwork to improve accuracy. big and strong (6'-6" 248 pounds) could d be another Big Ben.
    191 Running Back time - Tyler Gaffney (Stanford) or James White (WI) or Marion Grice (AS)
     
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    thanks for the feedback sluggo; I don't think they'll double down on S if they use the first or 2nd pick on him, but I wouldn't mind if they did, it's quite likely both would be starting week 1, but if they went CB I'd be okay with that.

    I'm a fan of Ego also, and I'm a firm believer the team needs to address the backup TE posiotn as well as ILB QB and RB.
     
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    It seems we are two draft choices from building an even stronger team. So I thought about how to get a few more choices. Trade 14 to San Francisco for their 30th, 56th and 77th picks. Our 14th pick is worth 1100 points, and SF would give up 1165 points.
    Some of my current thought's. Some may be gone so I included more than one.
    30 Either take S. Tuitt or R. Hageman
    51 Deone Buchannon or J. Ward.
    56 T. Gaines CB Rice or Pierre Desir (Linwood)
    77 Pierre Desir (Linwood) or Stanley Jean Baptiste (Neb)
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    C Fiedorowicz (Iowa) or Xavier Gimble (USC) or Joe Don Duncan (Dixie State)
    117 Christian Jones ILB (Florida State) or Yarwin Smallwood (CT)
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    D Fales (San Jose State) or Logan Thomas (VT)
    183 Tyler Gaffney (Stanford) or James White (WI) or DeAnthony Thomas (Oregon)
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    Tre Boston FS (North Carolina) or Colt Lyerla TE (Oregon) worth a gamble this late in the game
    When I look at the two drafts, I like this one better.
     
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    Sluggo, no way in hell is SF giving a 1st 2nd and 3rd to move up 16 spots in a draft that is recognized as being light at the top end but heavy throughout. Emery stated that one of the problems w/trading back is you do not get equivalent value by moving back so Chicago would more likely get sub 1100 then any team would give above it. Probably could get the 1st 3rd and maybe a 3rd day pick, or MAYBE their 1st and 2nd picks, but not getting 1-3.

    If it happened F'n sweet and take it all day; all that said I like the draft idea, it definitely allows the tema to fill a lot of holes and create depth.

    And before people kill me for not getting "value" from the trade, think about this draft, just getting the 30th's and 77th:

    30 Either take S. Tuitt or R. Hageman
    51 Deone Buchannon or J. Ward.
    77 Pierre Desir (Linwood) or Stanley Jean Baptiste (Neb)
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    C Fiedorowicz (Iowa) or Xavier Gimble (USC) or Joe Don Duncan (Dixie State)
    117 Christian Jones ILB (Florida State) or Yarwin Smallwood (CT)
    156
    D Fales (San Jose State) or Logan Thomas (VT)
    183 Tyler Gaffney (Stanford) or James White (WI) or DeAnthony Thomas (Oregon)
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    Tre Boston FS (North Carolina) or Colt Lyerla TE (Oregon) worth a gamble this late in the game

    At 30 they take Hageman, still getting a DT who can also play 3-4 or 4-3 at DT or DE, they get a starting S, and a backup CB to start next year, they get depth at TE, MLB, QB, RB, and possibly another developmental FS in boston, I personally wouldn't touch Lyerla but that's just my opinion on the subject, but Boston is a steal there.
     
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    I'm sure Emery has a few players tagged to grab at 14 that would forgo any trade down. If those few players are not there he will try to move down. The SF newspapers have had a few articles about the forty-niners moving up since they have so many picks, and have very few holes left to fill. They have already used two picks for Jonathan Martin and Blaine Gabbert. Players mentioned that SF would consider moving up for and will not be there at 30, are Barr, Cook, Beckham, Evans, Lee, Gilbert and Dennard. SF could even move up ahead of us.
     
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    I'd be ok with this draft.
     
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    So in the last few mocks I've assumed that the team will go 4-3 under b/c that puts Ratliff and Allen next to eachother at DT and RDE, which is what they played last year. Lets assume it's a 4-3 Over which puts the NT next to the RDE meaning that Ratliff is the NT, which does leave a huge hole at DT. Same scenerio, Dix/Donald/Gilbert off the board. Lets also assume that the team still doesn't value S as many have reported

    14 Tim Jernigan DT FS. The Bears need a potential day 1 starting DT, and the best is off the board, so the Bears go w/the 2nd best choice.
    http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=18281
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1986976-timmy-jernigan-scouting-report
    http://nfldraftgeek.com/timmyjernigan_scoutingreport.html
    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014tjernigan.php

    51 Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU: Bears need help at depth at OLB, it looked solid before hearing about Brigg's shoulder brace, but being thin behind 1 of the OLB and MLB is to much and Noy could step in and start if necessary this year, and very well could be a starter next year regardless of how things work now this year.
    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014kvannoy.php
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...report-nfl-outlook-for-byu-outside-linebacker
    http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3658
    http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/kylevannoy_scoutingreport.html

    82 Deone Bucannon SS Wash State Bears finally address S in the 3rd, he's not a top S prospect but considering the horrid play last year and the low level of talent they brought in to "compete" he still stands a strong chance of starting.
    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014dbucannon.php
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ing-report-nfl-outlook-for-washington-state-s
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737409/deone-bucannon
    http://nfldraftgeek.com/deonebucannon_scoutingreport.html

    117 Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Bears get a guy that can be developed over the next 2-3 years as the backup and potential trade back if Cutler is kept in the 4th year of his contract.
    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014amurray.php
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ay-scouting-report-nfl-outlook-for-georgia-qb
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664257/aaron-murray

    156 Xavier Gimble TE needs a lot of work on fundamentals, but w/Rosario and Mulligan on the team he won't see a ton of time this year anways, this is a guy to build up as a backup TE for next year and could be a ST's contributor this year
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rimble-scouting-report-nfl-outlook-for-usc-te
    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Xavier-Grimble-89779
    http://www.everyjoe.com/2014/03/27/sports/xavier-grimble-scouting-report-2014-nfl-draft/


    183 Bennett Jackson ND CB/S.Bears get a depth ST CB/S tweener he won't be taking anyones starting job, but at CB that can be addressed next year.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...scouting-report-nfl-outlook-for-notre-dame-cb
    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=210
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1749630/bennett-jackson

    191 Alfred Blue RB LSU, Bears need depth at RB and get it w/their last pick
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1749753/alfred-blue
     

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