Mock Offseason 1.0

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    Generally true I believe but wasn't Alonso a 2nd rounder last year?
     
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    I like it. There are any number of ways to improve this Defense that I would be happy with, but this is certainly one of them.
     
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    There are always exceptions, but they are exceptions for a reason. Last year I went back to 2000, and looked up the top 10 MLB's of each year, so ya there is overlap but that's going to happen, but it also shows staying power. the VAST majority of top 10 mlb's were all top 20 picks. I did it for the OL also, the only the T had a vast majority of 1st round top 10 guys, most G's were 2-4th and most C's were 5-UDFA.

    This year might be different b/c apparently it's very quality deep. But That goes for DT/DE/CB/S also. I don't know about the MLB so much b/c I really haven't looked into it until just now, I'll have to do some more reading about the MLB class this year.
     
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    I have. If we want a "real" top notch MLB this year, then we better pick CJ as you suggest (if he's even still there at 14). The next option is Skov from Standford, which is a bit of a drop from CJ, then it drops off big. There are plenty of outside guys, but those that would truly fit in the middle in a 4-3 are few in THIS draft. I have not looked into the options for the 2015 draft. It's possible next year could have a better crop if we want to wait, but as far as this year, the pickins are slim.
     
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    So trade back scenerio, the Cards wants to make sure they get their pick of the OTs, and know there are at least 2 teams in front of them that are looking at OT's also, so they contact the Bears to trade up, The Bears know that only 1 team behind them is looking at a DL, so they agree, but insist on getting the better deal the point difference between 14 and 20 is about 100-250 points(depending on the chart), so since they are coming from a position of strength they'll get the 250. The Cards are not going to give the Bears their 2nd and their 1st for just the 14th, the points are WAY off, but the Bears could easily get the Cards 3rd and 4th(20th overall in each round)

    Same FA:

    Bears now have:
    1st 20th pick
    2nd 14th pick
    3rd 14th
    3rd 20th pick
    4th 14th
    4th 20th pick
    5th 14th pick
    6th 7th pick.
    6th 14th picks

    Bears Draft:
    Bears now have their choise of the 2nd DT, the 2nd first DE, or 2nd CB, all of which are weighted at least this high.
    1st: Rasheed hagemen DT, the team goes w/a big body in the first
    2nd: Calvin Pryor FS team puts every FS
    3rd Khairi Fortt ILB The Bears go back to the well to try and find a MLB in the mid rounds, this time he'll have 2 guys in front of him in case he's not ready.
    3rd: Terrebce Mitchell CB, the Bears grab another DB to compete.
    4th: Jordan Richards SS, more back 7 help.
    4th: AJ McCcarron, QB, the Bears get a toy for their HC/QB whisperer
    5th: James Wilder JR, RB, he's a big back w/some rec skills, but has some work to do on ball security and technique, and has a concussion on his record, but he's a big kid w/some quickness w/the ability to move a pile.
    6th: David Andrews, C, Team needs a C prospect, even w/Slauson/Boggs and this guy fits the bill, even if it's not this year.
    6th: Jacob Peterson, TE. Team needs a TE prospect that might have some ability beyond the practice field(Fendi!)
     
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    Thanks, Ric, strong work there. Alonso would have been a better pick than Bostic but I believe Kiko went before we had our 2nd round selection last year, could be wrong about that can't remember. Players like him and LK would definitely be a huge plus for us now.

    It strikes me that Emery has to get us starter quality upgrades at DL (prob DE) and S too in free agency. Maybe CB instead of S if Peanut bolts to Tampa. It's really the same problem as we faced a year ago when Phil landed good but not great players in FA who were definite upgrades over what we had at TE and LT. Filling those glaring holes in FA gives you a lot more flexibility and unpredictability in the draft. For instance, the option of going after a MLB prospect in round 1. We could still get a quality DT in the 2nd.

    Like I've said before, Emery has a ton of cap flex options if there's FAs he likes. The current "number" of ~ $12m is not static and room can be made as needed. Signing a DE like Bennett and a starter S would help immensely.
     
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    I'll be interested to see were Louis Nix goes in the draft.

    If we are going to be a 4-3/3-4 hybrid next year, we'll need a DT that can play ether the 1 or 3 technique. From what I can see he's the only top 3 or 4 DT who fits that bill.

    Since his stock seems to be falling, could he last to our pick in the 2nd round?
     
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    dachuckster, I think Nix's biggest neg right now is the knee inj. Knee's/Leg's are the first to go on a bigman, and it kills their ability. Nix will have to prove that knee isn't an issue, AND that he's every bit as good as the other top DT's in the mid to late 1st otherwise he'll fall fast.
     
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    Not a bad scenario. Keep in mind, however, that I don't think the Bears do not have the 14th pick in the rounds subsequent to the 1st. There are other teams with the same record that alternate. At least I believe that is the case; could be wrong. That said, it doesn't really have a dramatic bearing on early draft speculation that we're all doing now.
     
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    4th, I'm just going off what the draft game showed, which was the 14th pick for the Bears throughout. Thanks for the info, I'll try and find a more reliable source.

    okay found another site that shows the Bears have
    1st rd 14th
    2nd rd 18th
    3rd rd 17th
    4th rd 16th
    5th rd 15th
    6th 6th and 14th

    But I cannot find anything that just says the Bears have picks 1-32 of each round other then mock draft sites so this could be wrong also. 4 picks isn't going to change much though, especially in the latter rounds so I'll stick w/my guns on the drafts; thanks for the update though 4th.
     
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