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  1. Grizzblue

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    Landing burid in FA would be a real game changer for the offseason. It would be te best case scenario IMO and if it worked out would be an instant jolt.

    That said, gime Jerrigan in round one if he's there.
     
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    You never said Powerhouse, you said small school. Pitt is not a small school and correct me if I'm wrong...but they've produced a pretty good amount of very good pro's. Lastly...I'm pretty sure this years national champ came from the ACC.
     
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    A certain beloved tight end and coach for our Bears came from that "small, non-powerhouse" school known as Pitt.
     
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    Butkus, small in reference to football programs, I understood your confusion so I expounded on the point, if you are still not understanding it's a problem on your end not mine.

    Hey great players come from the CFL too, maybe we should skip the draft and just pick up 6 players from the CFL, b/c exceptions to the rule are obviously the new rule right butkus?
     
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    Is Pitt smaller than Vandy? Is it smaller than Louisville? Smaller than Connecticut, or UVA or UNC?

    Pitt is no small school, and every year they have multiple players drafted in the NFL. Sure they haven't competed for a national championship since Tony Dorsett, but there are quite a few HOF players that came from there too. Not small at all.
     
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    Allow me then to expound. My point is you're wrong. As you say, if you can't understand that it's a problem on your end. If you don't know the history of the Pitt program and the players it's produced, thats your problem. If you don't know about the 12 national titles they've won(and the 4 other times they were selected national champ by a selector, well I can't help you. If you don't know that they have had the 8th most All Americans in college history of all D-1 schools, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't know about the NFL Hall of Famers that called that school home(which incidentally is the 4th most of any school in the country), I can't help you. IF you don't know that they have had at least one player represent them in the Pro Bowl every year since 1981, I don't know what to tell you.

    If all of that info makes them a "small time" program...well...I guess we will have to agree to disagree on what makes a program big time or not. I apologize for my sarcasm, but I tend to be snarky.
     
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    They haven't won a NCAA championship since 1976, before that championship it was 40 years in 1937 yes a true college powerhouse indeed. They've been laregly irrelevant since the early 80's, when they had 2 "unclaimed championships"

    Again sorry I wasn't clear in large college football program vs small, sorry that you think Pitt is somekind of college powerhouse, must have hit a nerve; you're favorite college team I guess? ACC is not a college power conference, nor is Pitt a powerhouse football program. Every team has a good run occassionaly, doesn't make them a bigtime football program. They are not Alabama, they are not Texas or USC they are not FL, they aren't even Oregon.
     
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    No, I actually don't have a favorite college team. I gotta say this is a pretty silly argument you're making. By that definition Notre Dame is a "small" school. And OREGON HAS NEVER WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP! They are obviously small time in your eyes. NC State has never won a championship...are they "small" too? How about OK State, South Carolina, West Virgina, VA Tech, and Wisconsin...does their lack of a national championship make them "small time" programs? Are Clemson and Texas A & M small time because they only have 1 national championship, with Clemsons the most recent in 81? How about Penn State and Georgia...I guess they're small time too eh?
    As for Alabama, after Bryant and before Saban got there they were pretty much an after thought. National Championships are not what make programs big time or not.
     
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    I agree with rics original point. Not to put words in his mouth but what I got out of it was we are drafting at number 14. Let's aim for a guy who played at a large program and competed against top talent. A proven guy who has shown he can consistently play against other future nfl players. That being said, give me Jerrigan any day over a DT from Pitt. Same for Clinton-Dix both are proven against flat out better college competition. Can a great player come from Pitt, or IU, or Mid Tenn St? Sure. But is it a gamble taking a player from a smallER school over a proven guy that played against top talent? Yes.
     
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    I get the point trying to be made...my point is it's a bad point, and incorrect.

    Jernigans schedule:

    09/02/13at Pittsburgh * [​IMG]
    09/14/13vs. Nevada [​IMG]
    09/21/13vs. Bethune Cookman
    09/28/13at Boston College * [​IMG]
    10/05/13vs. Maryland * [​IMG]
    10/19/13at Clemson * [​IMG]
    10/26/13vs. North Carolina State * [​IMG]
    11/02/13vs. Miami * [​IMG]
    11/09/13at Wake Forest * [​IMG]
    11/16/13vs. Syracuse * [​IMG]
    11/23/13vs. Idaho [​IMG]
    11/30/13at Florida [​IMG]


    Donalds Schedule:

    09/02/13vs. Florida State [​IMG]
    09/14/13vs. New Mexico [​IMG]
    09/21/13at Duke [​IMG]
    09/28/13vs. Virginia [​IMG]
    10/12/13at Virginia Tech [​IMG]
    10/19/13vs. Old Dominion [​IMG]
    10/26/13at Navy [​IMG]
    11/02/13at Georgia Tech [​IMG]
    11/09/13vs. Notre Dame [​IMG]
    11/16/13vs. North Carolina [​IMG]
    11/23/13at Syracuse [​IMG]
    11/29/13vs. Miami [​IMG]


    They played in the SAME LEAGUE!!!!! I get Fla. State had a better year, but THEY PLAYED AGAINST THE SAME TALENT largely. I'd take Jernigan over Donald because I think he's a better player, not because he played for the National Champions or because he played for Fla State. Brian Urlacher played for New Mexico State...should we not have drafted him? Would you not draft Jameis Winston because he played in the ACC? It just makes no damn sense.
     
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