NFL to Experiment with Longer PAT in Preseason....................

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  1. soulman

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    NFL moving extra points back ... in the preseason


    I've never heard anyone complain about extra points. They're just there during NFL games, not hurting or helping the sport, just the bread before the meal at a steakhouse. Nobody talks about how the bread needs to be improved.
    Somehow, extra points became a hot topic. For some reason this was the part of the game that had to dramatically change, either eliminating them or moving them back to make them tougher – because if there's something that will make the NFL better, it's putting the outcomes of more games on a kicker's shoulders.

    It seems that the first step toward making the extra point a substantial part of the game is coming this preseason. For the first two preseason games, teams will line up to snap extra points from the 20-yard line, making them about 38 yards instead of 20, which has been the standard. A proposal for a new permanent rule to snap extra points from the 25-yard line was tabled. By experimenting in the preseason, the NFL can see how it goes and determine if that's something it wants to implement.

    For anyone who likes this idea, remember that when your team drives down 80 yards for what looks like a game-tying touchdown in the final seconds of a hard-fought game, only to see the kicker miss a 37-yard kick. See if that scenario adds to the value of the game.

    The NFL did approve a rule making the goal posts five feet taller, which will make it easier for officials to determine if a field goal is good. Also passed was the "NaVorro Bowman rule," to allow officials to review the recovery of loose balls. Bowman stripped a ball in the NFC championship game, a play in which the 49ers' star linebacker hurt his knee, and had the ball in his possession, but the play was not reviewable. Now that kind of play will be subject to review.
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    I have as real dislike for this idea because kickers will simply spend most of their practice time kicking from the 27 yard line until that to become 90% automatic or more. Some teams will benefit from having an extremely kicker like the Bears do with Robbie Gould and others will suffer. The draft stock for kicker will surely rise if they make this permanent. Hopefully they won't.

    I prefer getting rid of the kicked PAT entirely and making a score 7 points. Then from the 2 yard line a team can elect to go for an addition point but if they fail one point will be subtracted from the value of the TD. That creates two options for the scoring team and 3 potential outcomes. If raising fan interest is the goal this is an idea to try as opposed to moving up the point of kickoffs until there are no longer any returns.
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    That's a great article Seqq and the author does a really thorough analysis of all of the possibilities and their success ratio. I also believe it tends to confirm what I'm saying about establishing a run/pass option for a either a 1 pt. conversion with a 1 pt. penalty for failure or a 2 pt. conversion with no penalty as something that would add to fan interest and make coaching decisions regarding PAT attempts more suspenseful as well.

    It would also reduce the value of the PK and increase the value of Power Back and Fullback types again and take them out of the role of being more than just a lead blocker for the #1 RB. If they move the PAT spot back to the 20 it will lower the success ratio temporarily but eventually PKs will have worked on their accuracy so much from that single distance that the ratios will eventually rise again. Maybe not to 98% or 99% level but certainly somewhere in the high 80% to low 90% range.

    Now contrast that to the success ratio of a 2 pt. conversion and the success of THAT attempt becomes much more questionable and of far more value especially if you award 7 pts. for a TD and then the PAT attempt has either a +1 or a -1 pt. result. Look at the decisions a coach has to face late in the game where the TD ties the game and he can immediately go for a win or risk a loss if they fail. The success ratio will rise as teams become more accustomed to going for that extra point but nowhere near as high a conventional PAT by the PK.

    The most interesting stat is the success ration of a run vs a pass on past 2 pt. conversion attempts and yet the ratio of passes to runs is slightly over 3:1. That pretty firmly indicates team should run more and pass less and it should lead to teams employing short yardage specialists at RB. One more reason I dislike the current proposal to move the PAT spot back to the 20 is that Belichick is a strong proponent of it. Why? He never does anything for the good of the game unless he sees a way for him to benefit from it personally.
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    I'd be happy if they just removed the roadblocks and rules that prevent the D from blocking kicks.
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    Well they seldom if ever even try hard to block an XP but if they move the spot back to the 20 we'll see it more often shorty.
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    That's good too but I'm talking of what Bill Belichick was talking about- overloading one side, alignment, etc. Try them both in conjunction.
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    I don't really want any change to the game as it is, but better this solution than forcing the game into the hands of a kicker.
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    I'd prefer they left it alone too but if they're gonna make a change then do some inventive instead of just moving the spot to the 20.
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    Amazingly i thought this exact thought when i watched his little public plea for the change lol

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