NYJ Eying McCown as Geno Insurance

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  1. MPbears68

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    Ric, Lovie is the HC and de facto vice-GM there. Whatever offensive fire Tampa has been able to cobble together, Lovie will quickly throw a wet blanket on.
     
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    It's a bit overwhelming to look at all of the needs the team has this off-season. A number of key parts of the team are broken and need fixing (probably more stuff than we will be able to completely fix this year). The backup QB position is one thing that doesn't need fixing. Why start fixing stuff that isn't broken?

    I've got to believe the Bears will find a way to bring McCown back, and maybe for more than one season too. We may see them offer Josh more than a one year deal here. Yes, he's an older QB. But clearly, in this offense, he's going to be just fine for a few more years as a backup. When Jay goes down to injury (and he will) then we have a guy who flourishes in the Trestman offense, and who can continue to keep things afloat until Cutler comes back from injury.

    I just don't see the Jets or Tampa situation as being a good fit for McCown - now that he's at the end of his career. I don't see either team throwing crazy money at Josh. I don't. And in Chicago, I could see McCown getting to start in meaningful games, and maybe even playoff games. That HAS to be appealing to McCown. I'm not looking forward to Josh getting starting time here, but I am resigned to the fact the backup QB in Chicago is going to get starting time most years.

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    I think the Bears will go into this situation the exact way they did most of their FA moves, they'll have a price on McCown and say this is what we can offer you; then it will be up to McCown to take less money w/less oppertunity.

    And if he doesn't leave we'll never know what he could have done; and neither will he, which is why he MIGHT decide to go elsewhere. And I don't think Lovie purposefully put a wet blanket on the O, I just think he couldn't get the OC right, and the OL crumbled before they could realise it. The bigger question does he have the ability to learn from the Bears problems, and if so can he correct the issues.
     
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    That's exactly the situation the Jets are describing with Geno. McCown would be a great fit as a backup in a number of places because he does not expect to start, and is willing to take the backseat to mentor the young guy that team is trying to develop into their starter.

    If you are McCown, and the Bears can offer you at most a 1 year 2 million dollar deal, or Tampa can offer you a 4 million dollar a year deal for two years with 2 million as a signing bonus, would you stay where you are a great fit or follow the money? He's at the end of his career. It's not like if he goes to Tampa and is terrible that will mess up his legacy in the NFL. He is saying all the right things (I love Chicago, I might retire...) to get other teams to want to pay more to get him away from us.
     
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    This might be where that extra 5% cap keeps JM here.
     
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    im pretty sure we agree on a 2 or 3-y contract with Josh with lots of little perks
     
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    I'm wondering the same thing regarding Lovie. If he can learn and evolve then he could do well in Tampa.
     
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    I would love to have McCown back here. I've liked him since 2011. But Cutler is, what, 22 million of our cap number this year, and we don't have a defense anymore.

    If I remember correctly, a vet minimum backup behind Cutler would cost towards the cap whatever the difference is between the 51st player's salary and that vet's contract. So say that guy is making 400K, and the vet QB's minimum salary is like 800K, We'd be looking at like 400-500K tops towards the cap. We bring back McCown at 2 million, which is a low number, that is 2 million towards the cap because we don't get that vet minimum cap dealie to lower the number.

    Combine that with the money other teams, like Tampa and the NYJ, have available because their rookies are on rookie deals, I don't see how McCown comes back here. Emery turned his back on Urlacher and Izzy without a moment's hesitation because he didn't want to spend the money on them. He could be looking at Jordan Palmer and thinking he can take the risk.
     
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    Out of eight games he played in last year, he had 224 attempts. That's 28 attempts per game. He only started 5 games, meaning in can in after it started.
    If you ask me, Trestman played him more as a passer than someone who needs to handle the ball off.

    So why would Lovie like this guy? Also, lets not forget he was throwing to a couple of HUGE receivers. Bennett, Jefferies, and Marshall are monsters! I just wish Cutler had the vision like McCown had to find them wide open.

    Why would Lovie want him as a starter? Hell, with Lovie, McCown was on a dead end trip to washing windows or coaching Pop-Warner.
     
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    I don't think McCown wants to learn a new system, if he doesn't have to. Remember he is in a postion where he doesn't have to play. If he fits in Chicago, and they pay him, I'm willing to bet he stays, rather than make who knows how much more money, but in a new system/City/coaching mindset.

    Here he could last another two years or so. One back-up year in NY could be his last in the NFL. I'd rather take to smaller pay days, than one decent pay day. I think he will stay here.

    Just like Tillman, we almost have to push the guy away to have him not re-sign.
     

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