Our Rookie Offensive Linemen

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  1. MPbears68

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    Lol, like Oakland and Cleveland aren't dumpster fires?
     
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    Thats why - if they're smart ...... and if these guys are starting - then Martellus will have to take a backseat for a few games and help them "get through" their first few games . Thats what I'd do .
     
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    I was impressed with both & I'd be surprised if both weren't starting on opening day. One on one Long is a beast. As he learns blitz pickups, etc, he will be a monster! Mills looked much better than the last game so it seems both will only get better & better. I just hope our starting O-line can stay healthy because most of backups stink. I thought Brown looked like Omiyale & Webb still looked like Webb.
     
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    I read somewhere (WCG I think) that we are actually tighter against the cap then previously thought when all the factors are calculated in. So I do believe there is going to a vet cut or two that will surprise some people. Hester seems to have put his attitude back in the right place and flashed a bit of his old magic so he's probably safe. Weems may make the team as a star STer or he may be cut loose to save a little cash. EBennett could even be a goner if his health is bad enough to not risk paying him $2 million (I hope not, but he could possibly be done as a player if his concussion doesn't resolve per protocol soon).

    Assuming Earl makes it back as I hope and expect, it seems to me that the coaching staff is looking hard for a way to accommodate cutting Webb. That would net us a $million or so with little dead money. Doesn't like like he has much chance of winning back his starting job that I can see and the current regime has no loyalty or ties to him. Basically comes down to whether someone else can start at RT and (more likely) supplant him as the backup LT/swing. I think Trest/Kromer would love to be able to part ways with him. They're looking for the chance as we speak.
     
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    the most exciting thing bout our new oline is that we will draft a c next year. and that is our olne for the next 5 years. like i said the day we drafted him, i like slausen and i believe we will play him on c occasionally, so maybe hell be our next c and well draft a g... to sum it up, so far so good, looks like someone has a plan and i like it
     
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    Agreed...... I think Webb might as well start packing his bags, ever since Mills has been playing the Bears run game has been better on that side.
     
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    Long full out dominated, the mental thing is the question but Mills and Long seem to be good together. A lot will fall on Garza and Cutler to point out the disguises. Physically they want to lay those on their backs every play and don't seem over matched. Say what you will about the opponent, big man vs. big man they both held their own. I sense a real cohesiveness in this group as well. Webb couldn't have cared less, Mills and Long WANT to be anchors on the right side, Bushrod seems to have taken them under his wing. Slauson has been a solid vet who wants to be here.


    OL is all about attitude. These guys wanna put the guy they're blocking on their ass, not just stop them but put them down. Webb, Louis, Spencer, didn't have that attitude. Carimi did I think but he wasn't physical enough to actually do it.

    They will put up with the rookie mistakes I believe because Mills and Long are going to learn, not just ho hum gave up another sack like Webb's attitude.
     
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    I need to see Mills stay out of his own pocket against the SCRUBS before I start him again and have Cutler lose his nerves. I was critical of Jay's pocket composure this game, but watching the tape it's clear to see that it all started with Mills collapsing directly in front of him every snap that had him rattled. The one example of the fumble sums it up, if he steps up straight, Mills' man is within arms reach for a play on him or the balls, so he tries going left and forward only to step into late backside pressure. Mills was impressive in the ground game, but so is Webb. He stayed in front of his man in pass pro, but only because he retreated to the point of pocket disruption. I understand him being passive and playing conservative, no-unforced error football as a rookie, but you need to be at least a little aggressive off the snap to establish the pocket.
     
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    he didn't get beat. Getting beat and getting pushed are two different things. That fumble was on Bennett, the guy had a clear path regardless if cutler stepped up or not.
     
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    Allowing a QB pressure isn't far off from straight up getting beat. You just can't allow the pocket to collapse that much on that regular a basis if you want to play in the NFL. The defender on his side was literally a belly's width away from Jay damn near right off the snap, that's unacceptable. Webb gets "beat" too often from inconsistencies, but at least he attacks and holds a deep edge in-between gaffes.
     

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