Overview Comparison: Jared Allen vs Julius Peppers

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    Overview Comparison: Jared Allen vs Julius Peppers
    Tonight I was curious about the statistical comparison of Jared Allen vs Julius Peppers. I've read a couple of articles comparing the two, but none of them included all of their career stats. I thought I'd post what I found here in case anyone else wanted to have a simple head-to-head comparison of their careers to date. These stats are from NFL.com and pro-football-reference.com. I also tried to include the more important career awards, records and even some of the more obscure stats. I'm sure there's much more than these, so if you know of others please share them here if you can.

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    Peppers and Allen. Getty Image

    Both of these guys have had stellar careers, and my gut feeling is that both of them (barring injury) will have solid seasons for their new teams. It's probably going to be a win/win situation for both the Bears and Green Bay. One writer mentioned that the only "loser" this year is the Vikings who will now have to face Jared Allen, Julius Peppers & Ndamukong Suh in six of their games this season. Allen and Peppers in particular will be highly motivated to prove themselves for their new teams - and prove that they still have something left in the tank. Don't expect Peppers to look like the player he was for the Bears last year. He'll be solid for the Packers (this year anyway).

    Two things that do stand out to me in a head-to-head comparison of these two are the fact that Peppers is a true physical freak with his size/speed. When he turns it on, he can move his 287 pound 6'7" body with great speed and power. Allen on the other hand has a much higher motor. Peppers is known for taking plays, and even games, off. He'll loaf. Allen simply doesn't have laziness in his DNA. He's 100% effort 100% of the time. I love that about him.

    Anyway, I'd like to hear from others what they expect to see from these two this season. Which man will have the greater impact for his new team?

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    {td=center}Jared Allen{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Ht{/td}
    {td=center}6'6”{/td}
    {td=center}6'7”{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Wt{/td}
    {td=center}270{/td}
    {td=center}287{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Age{/td}
    {td=center}32{/td}
    {td=center}34{/td}
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    {td=center|@x21}Experience{/td}
    {td=center}11th Season{/td}
    {td=center}13th Season{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Games Played{/td}
    {td=center}157{/td}
    {td=center}186{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Combined Tackles{/td}
    {td=center}555{/td}
    {td=center}556{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Tackles{/td}
    {td=center}442{/td}
    {td=center}448{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}Assisted Tackles{/td}
    {td=center}113{/td}
    {td=center}108{/td}
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    {td=center}128.5{/td}
    {td=center}118.5{/td}
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    {td=center}4{/td}
    {td=center}0{/td}
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    {td=center}50{/td}
    {td=center}59{/td}
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    {td=center}5{/td}
    {td=center}9{/td}
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    {td=center}1{/td}
    {td=center}2{/td}
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    {td=center}53{/td}
    {td=center}192{/td}
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    {td=center}5{/td}
    {td=center}8{/td}
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    {td=center}4{/td}
    {td=center}3{/td}
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    {td=center|@x20}NFL Sack Leader{/td}
    {td=center}Twice{/td}
    {td=center}Never{/td}
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    {td=center}Once{/td}
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    {td=center}Once{/td}
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    {td=center}4th Rnd - Pick 126{/td}
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    {td=center}52{/td}
    {td=center}45{/td}
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    {td=center}11.5{/td}
    {td=center}7{/td}
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    {td=center}6{/td}
    {td=center}3{/td}
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    {td=center}2{/td}
    {td=center}2{/td}
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    {td=center}0{/td}
    {td=center}1{/td}
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    Nice work brother and I agree with you that both will benefit from their change of scenery and if Pep does decide to take any games off it won't be the two against us.

    I loved having Pep but last year the guy was a major disappointment not only as a performer but as a leader. When we needed that most he wasn't there to provide it.

    Now enter Jared Allen and that's practically the first thing he does. He's here to win and that means helping everyone around him play better. IMHO between the two we've got the better deal as far as a fit for what that defense needed plus he's two years younger.
     
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    Well, it's easy to see that Allen has a bigger impact on his team. He equals the tackles of Peppers with two less years.

    One thing to note, Allen is PURE energy! When is the last time the Bears have seen the level of play he brings?

    the Bears need to break out of that routine. Lets face it, when they make a good play they get pumped, just not "electric". They get more like a businessman that got two twinkies out of the vending machine for the price of one.

    Allen is the kind of excitment that players want to be around. He will make everyone better around him just from that energy. Peppers doesn't bring that.
     
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    Jared HIGH HIGH motor team feed off his play, Julius motor fits better with basket weaving. Safties 4 and NFL sack leader twice, Julius ZERO!! WOW!! I'll take this swap any day of the week, nice work JABF99.
     
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    LOL........
    I thought I'd die laughing when I read this DTB. That's a "classic" for sure :-)

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    Great writeup JABF99.

    Peppers took last year off, loafing around, eating twinkies and weaving baskets to keep them in (a twinkie is a loaf, right?). He took off a year or two ago also with his foot problem. But he won't this year. I wonder if he has a full season left in his tank, but one thing's for sure, his best two games will be against us. Hopefully our O-line learned enough after having practiced against him and they can contain him. Who knows, maybe his plantar fasciitis will come back and bother him again, giving him another excuse for taking plays off.

    If he plays hard against us only, I'll be done with him as a former Bear. He will be a cheesehead fudgepacking twinkie eater for ever.
     
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    Where'd you get that. Well this is embarrassing and I guess I forgot to shave that day too. :redface:

    The senior center said no pics and no pics mean no pics. :nonono:
     
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    OP you're wrong about Peppers, he is not lazy and is also a great player and good leader, and a MUCH more dominant player than Jared Allen. How is that Allen for Peppers swap working out for ya Bears fans anyway? :) Also, you left out a lot of Peppers awards and honors, and Jared Allen did not win the Defensive Rookie of the Year Award like you said in the op.

    Julius Peppers: Currently in his 13th season
    Tackles - 586
    Sacks - 123.5
    Forced Fumbles - 41
    Fumble Recoveries - 17
    Interceptions - 10
    Touchdowns - 5
    Passes defensed - 67
    Stuffs - 51
    Safeties - 0
    Blocked kicks - 13
    Hurries - 131 (Since 2006)
    First team all pros - 3
    Second team all pros - 3
    Pro Bowls - 8
    2002 NFL Defensive Rookie of The Year
    Career Approximate Value - 147

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3530/julius-peppers

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PeppJu99.htm Approximate Value

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/p...eType=279588574&SeasonMax=9999&SeasonMin=1990(Hurries stat)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Peppers

    Jared Allen: Currently in his 11th season
    Tackles - 586
    Sacks - 130
    Forced Fumbles - 30
    Fumble Recoveries - 17
    Interceptions - 5
    Touchdowns - 4 (2 of them being on offense)
    Passes defensed - 52
    Stuffs - 667
    Safeties - 4
    Blocked kicks - 1
    Hurries - 99 (Since 2006)
    First team all pros - 4
    Second team all pros - 0
    Pro Bowls - 5
    Career Approximate Value - 112

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5651/jared-allen

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJa22.htm AV

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/p...eType=279588574&SeasonMax=9999&SeasonMin=1990(Hurries)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Allen
     
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    College Football Awards and honors

    NFL awards and honors

    • NFL Rookie of the Month (10/02)
    • 2002 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year
    • Pro Football Weekly All-Rookie Team (2002)
    • 2004 NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year
    • 2004 NFC Defensive Player of the Year
    • 2013 Brian Piccolo Award
    • NFL 2000s All Decade Team
    • Pro-Football-Reference All 2000s Team
    • 100 Sacks Club
    • 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 NFC Pro Bowl
    • 2004, 2006, 2010 All-Pro First Team
    • 2008, 2009, 2012 All-Pro Second Team
    • Six time NFC Defensive Player of the Week (11/13/06, 11/9/08, 11/1/09, 11/18/10, 12/23/12, 10/2/2014)
    • Four time NFC Defensive Player of the Month (11/2004, 10/2006, 11/2010, 11/2011)
    Panthers franchise records

    • Most career sacks: (81)
    • Most career forced fumbles: (30)
    • Longest Interception return: 97 yards (vs. Denver Broncos 10/10/04)
    NFL records and accomplishment

    • Sixteenth most sacks in NFL history: 123.5
    • Tied for fifth most double digit sack seasons in NFL history: 8
    • Tied for fifth most games with at least three sacks: 9
    • Tied for Twelfth most multiple sack games in NFL history: 31
    • Tied for eighth most forced fumbles in NFL history: 41
    • Second most interceptions by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 9 *10 career interceptions including time played as a linebacker
    • Most interception return yards by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 192 yds *241 career interception return yards including time played as a linebacker
    • Most interception return yards in a single season by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 143 yds
    • Most interception return yards in a single game by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 97 yds
    • Longest interception return by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 97 yds
    • Most combined interception and fumble return yards by a defensive lineman in a single season since NFL merger in 1970: 203 yds
    • Tied for second most interceptions returned for a touchdown by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 2 *3 career interceptions returned for a touchdown including time played as a linebacker
    • Third most passes defensed by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 62 *67 career passes defensed including time played as a linebacker
    • Second most blocked kicks in NFL history: 13
    • Only player in NFL history to record at least 100 sacks and 10 interceptions
    • Peppers has three career games with at least a half-sack and an interception-return touchdown, the most such games in the NFL since the sack became an official statistic in 1982
     
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    He is both. He can be lazy. He can be a great player. When he feels like playing hard, he is good. When he feels like mailing it in, you will find yourself looking for his number when the team is on the field - because he disappears for games at a time. Sometimes most of a season if he's really lazy.

    You'll see.

    At least we get the effort from Allen. My hope is that we find a young guy in the draft that can play at the level of a motivated Peppers. Pep quit on us. Plain and simple. He quit on Carolina, and that's why they let him go too. He'll quit on you too, so don't get cocky. It's coming.
     
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