Peppers Dilemna

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    Good arguements> For the record I am not for or against just getting thoughts on if it could help the cap by restructuring. I tend to agree with you, just have not convinced myself we can do any better, time we spend money on Bennett or better DE at $6MM or more a year probably closer to $8MM for a difference maker + the dead cap of Peppers I was just wondering what the thoughts were.

    They seem to be get rid of PEPPERS NO MATTER WHAT.
     
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    Early in the season someone mentioned on the messageboard here that it looked like he was taking plays off and giving a half-hearted effort. That made me angry at the time to read. I'm a huge Peppers fan, and even argued with folks here, defending the guy, and made excuses for his play. But then I started watching his play more closely and I realized the guy just couldn't get it done anymore. Worse, it did look like he was coasting out there in some games. I don't know why, but it sure looked like he was mailing it in, in some games. I understand a guy getting old, and his play dropping off. (can't help it if ya get old). I have no problem with that. But in Pep's case, it also looked like the guy was just going through the motions. I question his effort. Consequently, I honestly don't want him back at any price.
     
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    Whatever the reason ("mailing it in", age, no gas in the tank), there were so many times this season where the D needed to make a play--one good play--to win a game. Think StL, Minny, Washington, Green Bay, etc. and in not one of those times was Pep able to deliver like we have grown to expect. The only impact play he made all season was the takeaway-TD vs Pitt in week 3. That's pretty much it. Consider that David Bass, a 7th round rookie, equalled that and that should pretty much tell you all you need to know.
     
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    An older Peppers does not make the team better, you might argue that he takes the spot that might be filled by another player that can have more of an impact.

    So he actually hurts the team by coming back.
     
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    8 mil of Peppers' contract is inevitable (the prorated bonus), so the question is really...

    If Peppers' is willing to take the 8 mil pay-cut in salary (from 13.9 mil to 5.5 mil), do we want him back or do we want to spend that 5.5 mil on a younger player? Either choice means eating the prorated bonus.
     
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    Isnt Bennett from Seattle in play ? Does he have a brother on our team ?

    With the money saved from Peppers can we get Bennett ?
     
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    I was going to post the same thing. The "dead money" is dead whether he gets cut or not. The question is if he is worth the hypothetical $5.5M. I say no. His decline this year was dramatic. How do we know he won't be even worse? I'm not sure his play THIS year was worth $5.5M (I'd have to see comparable players at that salary). Plus it's a big assumption he'd even agree to it. If the Bears cut him, there's a good chance someone will give him a two year deal worth more than that. And maybe a change of scenery would be good for him too.

    I'd rather eat the dead money (spread out over two years) and have more money to spend on younger players that will be a part of the team for the next 5 years.
     
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    I'm questioning, unless Sea doesn't want him back, why would Michael Bennett want to leave a team in the SB for a team that is no where near a SB?
     
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    Well hopefully Sea wins the SB which would give Bennett a reason to leave for the Bears, to give his brother a SB with Chicago!!!!! Woot
     
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    And also, why would he want to leave the #1 defense in the entire NFL to come to one of the worst defenses in the NFL? To play in Mel's "Tuckered Out Defense" instead of playing on a championship team that truly VALUES defense as well as offense? He'd be nuts to come here. I loved this brief article about the win yesterday in Seattle. The unit is everything we are NOT here in Chicago:

    "SEATTLE -- In the years to come, all that will linger in memories will be the dominance of the fourth quarter. When the Seattle Seahawks needed it most, their defense answered. Three critical drives by the San Francisco 49ers. Three takeaways by Seattle's proud and loud defense. With Sunday's NFC Championship Game on the line, the strength of Seattle's roster, the unit that has led the way all season long, stepped forth one more time and proved its worth.

    Without that flair for the dramatic, and a sense of exquisite timing, the Seahawks would not be Super Bowl-bound for the first time in eight years. They'd be staying home, not heading to New York for a turn on the game's grandest stage and a date with the dangerous Denver Broncos.

    "A good defense is always going to love those moments when you have to stop them, or you have to get them off the field to win the game," Seattle safety Earl Thomas said amid the celebration sparked by the Seahawks' 23-17 defeat of the 49ers at a raucous CenturyLink Field. "That's what we bank on. We always talk about how good we want to be, how we want to separate. That's how you separate." LINK
     
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