PFF GIVES KYLE LONG A NEGATIVE GRADE.

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  1. soulman

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    Yep, that's my thinking as well. Matt Forte has a career year, Marcellus Bennett has a career year, the Bears sacks are way down so the passing game kicks into high gear, we have to the top pass catching duo in the NFL, and the second best scoring offense in the NFL. But the right side of our OLine scores negative numbers???? Yeah, right. PFF just sunk to the bottom as far as their credibility for rating linemen is concerned. They need to change their metrics.
     
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    I agree, and give them credit for trying to rate and grade the OL I just don't think they are very accurate at it. I would love to see the exact formula they use I think it would be interesting. As much as I wish there was an accurate way to put a numerical value on OL play, I think there's a reason the NFL hasn't had a stat similar to QB rating for the OL.
     
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    Oh whatever with PFF. It's the same one that rated Webb over Bushrod. Doesn't take into account Long playing next to and helping out another rookie in Mills.
     
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    That says all we need to know
     
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    The key to their formula isn't their formula, it's the judgement used in grading. There is a fine line between a hurry/no hurry. There is a fine line between a pancake block and roll over another player (with G on top on the way down). To me, PFF has the right type of metrics, but might be using multiple people to grade the film...leading to inconsistency and/or favoritism.

    Dunno, just a feeling I get sometimes when reading their stuff. Still like the resource, just can't take it as gospel.
     
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    BS, think thats the thing, you cannot use any one of these sources as gospel. PFF gives you a good source of reference, but common sense and watching the game itslef has to come into play also, watching JWebb play or Shea play told you they were bad at their job, no matter how well or bad PFF graded them out; and watching a guy like Bushrod play told you that he'd be better the JWebb, regardless of the qb he was protecting.
     
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    I believe what i see with my own eyes. I like his fire and his passion think sky the limit with Long, and he was alternate selection to pro bowl. I am sure he just happen be one that said yes, but still think he deserved to go. haven't been this excited in watching Oline guy play for good 7 yrs. infact was down right ugly and sicking. Hope Long plays lights out all season and builds upon his success if Pff grade motivates him to work harder at his craft I might have to buy a Long Jesery cause I love this kids attitude.
     
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    All I can say is that I quit reading PFF a LONG time ago !
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    The only stat that ultimately matters is wins. Put that on your locker. All of you.
     
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    Well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but PFF grades don't take the level of competition into account, just the results of the plays, do they not? If so, an average player against weak competition can grade out higher than an above average player against strong competition. So while their grades have some use, they have to be taken with a grain of salt.

    As for Long's grade vs the other two rookies: considering his rawness and lack of experience, I see nothing disheartening in this. Presumably, he should be capable of surpassing them within the next year or two.
     
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