POLL-Do YOU want Jay Cutler to be the QB of the Bears for the next 5+ years

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Do you want Cutler to be our QB for the next 5+ years?

  1. BradMustersGhost

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    Just a simple yes/no question to see where everyone stands on the issue of the day. Figured we could all go on the record now while we wait to see what Emery decides to do in the off-season.
     
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    No. (As a side note, I've been a big supporter of Cutler's over the years. But there's no denying that he's just not comfortable or confident in this offense. And I actually think that McCown can take this offense and this team far.)
     
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    I'm on the fence, but I am more open to a "no" than I ever was before.
     
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    I don't see it as a stark black-and-white situation.

    1. Jay is older now, so I'm not sure I'd want him here for 5+ years anyway.
    2. When we say "pay the man his money" I would want to know how much money. There is a "value component" here for me to consider. If he wants a fortune, then that is different from giving us a substantial "home town discount"
    3. He doesn't have to "be an elite or near elite NFL QB" in my opinion. I never considered him (ever) as being at that top-tier level. I don't expect his replacement to be at that level either. But I would like to see a consistently solid QB who is smart enough to win big games.
    4. What is the "exit strategy" if we walk away from Cutler? A vet? Use McCown for a year? Get a 1st round QB? Or try to coach up a mid-round "prospect" or just what is our option here?

    So for me, I'd want to know more before I answer that question. Under some circumstances I'd say walk away from Jay. But, under other circumstances I'd be okay signing him to a short term contract based upon incentives. The reason I qualify my answer is that I'm not going to over-react and say dump Jay, if we don't have a better solution in hand. You never burn a bridge unless you have a solid alternative.
     
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    The question shoud be: Do YOU really believe a rookie QB can lead us to the Super Bowl in the next 5 years?

    The answer is no.

    Do we have a better chance winning the SB with an "average" QB like Cutler than a rookie QB?

    The answer is yes.
     
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    I realize we don't all get Peyton Mannings for our team, and most of us have to win with more average talent at QB - what I'd classify as solid/good-but-not-great talent. Jay actually is elite physically. I don't know of another QB in the NFL with better raw/physical talent. He makes throws that are jaw dropping from a talent standpoint. But he doesn't seem to have the football-IQ to go with the physical skills. He makes poor decisions, especially in big games. Consequently, I'd be fine with a young QB with less (but still solid) physical attributes, but who could play smart football. A guy who actually plays his best in big games. Over the years we've seen a number of these guys. They are winners, even at the Super Bowl level.

    I want "one of those" guys. A guy Marc Trestman can develop. I could see Jay Cutler not getting us a sniff of a Super Bowl, and maybe not even an NFC-N championship. Yet the youngster could be a guy who could lead us to long-term success - even in big games where we now fizzle out and lose.
     
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    No. I'd be okay with him staying one or two more years to mentor the new guy but 5 Years heck no!
     
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    The Bears rank 3rd in the entire NFL in ppg. and just one point behind New Orleans (after N.O. explosion against Dallas). If something is working, don't mess with it! If we can get Cutler to agree to a 3-yr. contract, that would be great. But I'll take 5 yrs. so long as Cutler doesn't make $$$ demands that break the bank so badly that we don't have the money to get free agents for the defense like we got Bushrod and Bennett this year for the offense. That's the only thing keeping me from giving an unqualified "yes" answer to the question.

    Also, don't forget the "monkey principle." As a monkey swings from vine to vine in the jungle, he doesn't let go of one vine until he has a grasp on the next. So, don't let go of Cutler until you know you have one to replace him. I have been a Bears fan for 50 years, and Cutler is the best we've had. You young guys would appreciate him more if you suffered for 40 years worth of lousy Qb's in Chicago.

    The poll question is rigged to produce a "no" response. Cutler is never going to be a Tom Brady, but he is good enough to win the Super Bowl with this offense, IF the Bears can rebuild a decent defense in that time-frame.
     
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    I think the best option is to FT Jay for one year, draft a rookie in the 2nd-4th, and keep McCown (don't be mad, Ric). You'd be overpaying Cutler for one year in return for not having to throw a rookie into the fire right away and not getting saddled with a LT commitment to a starter who hasn't shown he can stay healthy or win "big games". JM has earned another year deal by showing he's a competent backup (very competent actually) in the TCO and as a solid mentor to a rookie. I see this as the best compromise and the best way to finally develop a homegrown QB talent. I don't see a LT deal for Cutler, even a "generous" one from his perspective, as a wise choice. Jay simply hasn't conquered his turnover or injury demons enough to warrant big bucks and a multi-year commitment.
     
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    Okay, and what are you going to do if your rookie QB turns out to be crap? You aren't going to get a Johnny Manziel in round 2-4. Even 1st round guys go bust-- need I mention Grossman and McClown? If we were at the bottom of the NFL, then bring in your rookie and see what happens, but we are not there. With this offense plus a top-10 defense in 3 years, we are Super Bowl contenders. I believe that. That should be Emery's goal IMO.
     
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