POLL: How good of a defense do you think we need to get a Super Bowl win?

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How good of a defense do you think we NEED to get a Super Bowl win?

  1. We need to be a top-5 defense to win a Super Bowl.

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  2. We need to be a top-10 defense to win a Super Bowl.

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  3. We need to be a top-15 defense to win a Super Bowl.

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  4. We need to be a top-20 defense to win a Super Bowl.

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  5. We need to be a top-25 defense to win a Super Bowl.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. It doesn't matter because the offense will be good enough to off-set even the worst defense.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    This is not asking how good of a defense you WANT here in Chicago, but rather, how good of a defense do we NEED to win a Super Bowl? We've gone from being focused on defense under Lovie Smith, to a focus on offense under Marc Trestman. Lovie never could figure out the other side of the ball. Obviously Trestman's team is D.O.A. until he figures out how to build a defense. But just how good of a defense do we need?
     
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    I voted top 10, but the real answer is "It depends on how good your offense is". You can get by with top 10 if your O is top 5. You can't if your O is top 15. Take a look at these 4 teams still in the playoffs. How good a defense do you think you need to stop them --- or a more accurate question --- how good a defense do you think you need to be able to be pretty sure that you can allow your offense the margin to win above what the opponents are capable of putting on the scoreboard.

    It is the combination that matters. If your D is a sieve (like ours), then your O needs to be able to score on almost every possession (because any of these four teams could do it to our D). If our D is extremely stout, then our O only needs to be able to score more points against their D than their O can against our D.

    The two together determine how strong either unit needs to be, as well as the strengths and weaknesses of your opponent. So, a generic answer is tough. With these 4 teams that are in the playoffs, your D better be pretty good.
     
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    Good points. Here are the top-10 defenses in this year's regular season:

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    Seattle Seahawks
    Carolina Panthers
    San Francisco 49ers
    New Orleans Saints
    Cincinnati Bengals
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Arizona Cardinals
    Miami Dolphins
    Indianapolis Colts
    New England Patriots
     
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    yes, and three out of those 10 are in the finals. Saints, Colts, Chiefs, Bengals, Panthers were also in the playoffs. Add the three still in it, and you have 8 out of 10 were a top defense. The Broncos are still in it because of Manning, but it is doubtful that they can stop Brady, so their D may lose them that game. Manning is capable of a shootout against anyone, but if NE stops him more than they stop Brady, they lose.
     
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    In 2012 we were #5 against the rush. That vanished in one year of training camp.

    That tells you somthing right there. Other teams didnt fall off that much.

    Thats about coaching.
     
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    It "needs" to be as good as can be made, within the alloted cap space. We now have what I have feared: just a polar opposite of Lovie: Good D/Bad O now it's Good O/Bad D. If we can just be in the top 12 to 10 in both O and D I think that gives us the best opportunity to be a consistent success.
     
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    a defense that is at least servicable
     
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    A 2012 BEARS DEFENSE ... or better yet ... a 2014 BEARS DEFENSE !!

    If Halas Hall doesnt see this shit thru ... sombody needs to be fired.
     
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    1985 Bears defense. Hands down.
     
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    The recent Super Bowl winners have had opportunistic defenses with good/great pass rush. I don't think that's a coincidence when paired with a very good/explosive offense.

    Also, I laughed when I saw the Colts as a top ten D.
     
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