POLL: If "Bad Jay" can't be fixed this season, should we give him a long-term contract anyway?

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by JustAnotherBearsFan99, Sep 30, 2013.

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If Jay continues to melt down in big games this year, should we give him the long-term contract?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

    JustAnotherBearsFan99 SuperFan

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    I agree. He probably still wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat & screaming - after having one of his "Suh dreams" and flashbacks of the Giants game. Who wouldn't?
  2. Bearsinhouston

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    That Giants game was brutal. I can laugh about it now, but it was a train wreck in the middle of a tornado. :tornado:
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    This is a very leading question. If Cutler is playing poorly, then no, we should not extend him long term. The real question is how his relationship and progress with Trestman is going. If it is on track and pointed upwards, and Trestman thinks he can make him his QB of his offensive, then yeah, we should keep him.
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    Okay. Lets play the game of projecting stats.

    Currently in four games Cutler is 95-148 (64.2%) for 1010 yards. He has thrown 8 TDs and 6 INTs

    Projecting that out to 16 games, he would be 380-592 (64.2%) for 4040 yards. He would have 32 TDs and 24 INTs.

    IF that is what he ends with (I know, projections dont ever work out) would you re-sign him? And for what?
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    Eli Manning and Big Ben are a defenses best friend right now.
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    + 4K is not a huge benchmark anymore(11 of the top 15 qb's reached 4K or more, 6 were over 4.5K), but it's still top 15
    -nearly 600 attempts(qb's near 600 attempts all had 4300-4800 yards) here's the problem w/that 4K #, 600 attempts should get you a lot more yards then 4K
    +32 TD's would put him tied for 5th last year, those are big boy #'s
    -24 int's is way to high, last year no starting qb had more then 20, of the QB's that were close only Drew Brees is the only elite qb that is close, and he had 43 TD's, I can live w/19int's if you give me 43 TD's. 32 TD's and 24 int's is Romo and Freeman like(last year Romo had 28 td's and 19 int's and Freeman had 27 and 17), how many of us lol'd at Dallas for their huge signing of Romo last year? How many would want Freeman as the starting QB for the Bears?
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    If we get bad Jay 25% of the time we will not win a super bowl. I want a super bowl and he would not be the guy to take us there. I would not give him a long term (or short term) contract.
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  8. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    That's a great point. If we trust Trestman then it's really up to what he believes is Cutler's ceiling with the Bears. It's still early in the Trestman era.
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    Cutler blows. How many more years do yall need him under center to realize this? Why in the world would you want this loser QB holding this franchise hostage at over $10 mil per? That money is better spent elsewhere. He will never be a QB that can beat any good teams. Rodgers mind fucks this guy every game and Stafford may be on the way of duplicating that. Culter is ju7st an uglier version of Jeff George. Even the Colts had enough sense to dump George. Bears need to do the same and make a move in this deep '14 draft class. Cutler is not worth the shit money he thinks he's worth.
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    Give me a break about Stafford, he blows and if it were not for his supporting cast he would be another Trent Dilfer.
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    IF Cutty gives the same performance in all the big games like last Sunday's game. Anyone that gives him a long-term contract gets a free lobotomy.
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    you guys......
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    LOL So how many 5000yd seasons did Dilfer throw for? Yes because anyone in this league can throw for 5000yds right??? Homie your mod privilges should be suspended for a month just for the fact you posted that kind of nonsense on here.
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    Projecting out a player's stats to 16 games is a waste of time. You never get anything useful out of numbers like that.

    Peyton Manning, if he keeps up his pace, is going to throw for 5880 yards, 64 TDs, rush for -28 yards, and throw zero interceptions.

    See how useless that is?
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    I know how useless it is. But projecting it out would give a likely best case scenario.
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    We're just gonna have to let the season play out. Jay could turn it all around yet. Or he could bust. Or he could be somewhere in the middle. I started this thread and in hindsight, it's a stupid one. My bad.
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    Cutler is not going to throw 24 interceptions this year under Trestman. It's not a best case scenario. It's a nothing stat that gives little info.
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    He isn't going to throw 32 TDs either... likely not 4K yards either
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    Yes Stafford was so AWESOME last year he led the lions to a 4-12 record with a TD total of 20 and 17 INTS. One more thing if you want to rip Cutler for his record vs the packers you will not like Stafford record vs the packers.
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    Eli Manning is on pace for 36 ints while his brother is on pace for 64 TD passes and 0 ints.

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