POLL: Would you like to see the Bears trade down for extra draft picks?

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by JustAnotherBearsFan99, Apr 13, 2014.

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Would like to see the Bears trade down for extra draft picks?

  1. Yes, if they can find a trade partner.

    14 vote(s)
    46.7%
  2. No, pick at #14.

    16 vote(s)
    53.3%
  1. soulman

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    There may be a better chance of Shazier being there than Mosley. I'd be surprised if Mosley got past GB if he's there. He'd be a really good fit for their 3-4 and he's the kind of guy they look for. I don't know if Shazier will even drop out of round one but the odds are better with him the Mosley I would think.
     
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    I gotta say that I really don't like the SF scenario unless we can use those spare picks to move up in other rounds. I don't want to sound like a jerk but to me it's patently ridiculous for us to have ten picks. Number one we won't get all of these guys to fit needs this perfectly and half the guys we actually do get won't even make the team.

    We don't need a whole lot of depth more than we need top players and core starters. Adding picks at the tail end o each round won't necessarily do that. Let another team fall for it. It's a sucker play to make a trade out of #14 to #30 like this. The Cleveland scenario has promise because we pick 5 spots higher than the SF scenario and that will make a difference. We also end up with a pick in the top five of the 2nd round and another in the top 20 (our own) so we have a shot at 3 possible starters or rotation players as opposed to two. Then I'd try to negotiate for later picks this year a opposed to a 3rd next so we have a better chance of getting a QB and a RB near the top pf those rounds before they get picked over.

    If SF called with that offer I tell them thanks but no thanks.
     
  3. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    +1

    I agree with you on that. And statistically, we probably have a greater chance of being struck by lightening than for any of this to happen anyway. It's just passing time until the draft.
     
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    I just think we'd have far more success finding three guys we could use out of the top 51 picks and then still have a shot at two more promising player and three and four. Those are guy who you usually want to keep on the roster and after all the upgrading, and considering the youth we have now, how may spots will there be for rookies?

    It's tough to stow them on the PS if they have any real immediate talent another team could use and the old dodge of creating phony injuries to stow them away on IR has been torched for the most part. Even after those first five we'll still have three more picks to add some depth at or prospects and I don't know hat we'd do with more picks that low.

    I guess that's why I never do mocks and seldom believe much of what they say. If the gurus hit on 50% of their picks in to rounds I'd say they're doing good.
     
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    I do get a better feel for the draft by going through these scenarios though. Not that our Bears draft will play out like the on-line drafts we have fun with - it won't. It is an eye opener when guys drop unexpectedly to you like in the real draft world, or a guy you want is taken just before you get your next pick. And then, some guys are at positions that you really don't need, but the player-value is so great you feel like you almost have to pull the trigger in some of those cases. Also, it is an eye opener (to me) to see a lot of good players between the latter part of the first round and the 4th round. I look at those first 4 picks with the trade down and think of what that does to our defense, to have these youngsters brought in, along with the FA's Emery added:

    DT TIMMY JERNIGAN

    ILB C.J. MOSLEY

    SS JIMMIE WARD

    FS TERRENCE BROOKS
     
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    Echoing some of Soul's comments here and I know we are all just shooting the shit trying to pass the time until the draft gets here since there's nothing else to talk about.

    First off, the point value of this hypothetical trade way exceeds what's realistic and what the 14 pick is worth (1100, I believe). And it's widely held that the traditional point chart underestimates the true value of the mid-rounds where you can often get some really good players if you're willing to be patient in developing them.

    Secondly, these draft simulators may be fun to play with when you're bored like we all are right now but wow they come up with some ridiculous falls that aren't going to happen. As in, getting players dozens of picks and sometimes even several rounds later than there's a snowball's chance they will ever make it to.

    Finally, it's easy to get caught up in the frenzy of "trading down for a bumper crop of picks" when that isn't the panacea you think it is. Even if you ignore how unrealistic the scenario is, how the hell would you find roster spots for all these picks??? Unless you're an expansion team just starting our or a franchise undergoing a massive long-term rebuilding project, there's no way you can. Which means that several of your "extra picks" are going to end up getting cut to fit within the 53 man limit and (if there any good at all) will be scooped up by other teams. Problem with having "too many picks" is that you end up trading away part of the value you gave up in the transaction to in effect DRAFT FOR OTHER TEAMS on your dime.
     
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    That is true. And I agree that you can have too many picks in the garbage rounds.
     
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    I would JA know this as soon as possible.
     
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    That'll be the topic of his next article. "Garbage Picks; Making Them Payoff".
     
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    I suspect the process involved pixie dust.
     
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