Potential Vet FA Prospects for the #2 QB Spot..............

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  1. riczaj01

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    he's high effort, I just don't think he's smart enough to play safe efficient football like McCown did.Non of these guys can.
     
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    Freeman isn't the tallest midget. He's the shortest midget if the Bears are looking for a vet backup QB. You said to bring Freeman in on a one year deal and that if he sucks then cut him. That is a waste of time. He's such a poor fit for our #2. He going to want the chance at being a starter, and he's not going to go somewhere for vet minimum. And from his time in Minnesota he known for being late to meetings and not knowing the offense. Now, I don't feel Frazier gave him any time to learn their offense, and the guy has ADHD that he takes Adderall for so it's a bit much to expect him to start as soon as they did. But he's got plenty of issues that don't lend themselves to the backup role.

    "Nobody in the NFL doesn't want to be the starter,"

    - Josh Freeman

    The kid is 26 and was a starting QB last year for three games in Tampa. His mindset is still in being a starter. To be willing to accept the vet backup role is a humbling task. Even if he takes a backup role on some poor desperate team, he's mentally not ready to be a backup. He's not going to watch every snap to take the mental rep and try to figure out where to throw the ball. He's used to getting starter snaps to learn the offense.
     
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    Zach Mettenberger ftw.
     
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    No, I was referring to signing someone to compete in camp and be cut-able if he doesn't win the job. And only in a hypothetical "if you HAD to choose..." Scenario here. There's no reason to believe ANY of these vets mentioned above would be any better than what we already have. It's just a theoretical discussion.
     
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    Oh boy, lots to comment on here.

    If we sign the tallest midget with the best arm we can send him out there on Palmer's shoulder and then we'll have an 8' tall QB who can see over anyone. No batted passes either. Freeman is another Jason Campbell looking for a bigger payday then we'll want to give him and since one of Trestman's top criteria is "don't turn it over" he goes to the bottom of the class on that alone.

    Looking at that list the main thing now should be for them to decide who, if anyone, has a "Chinaman's Chance" of competing with Palmer. It's not just one but several I would think. Looking it over I'd opt for Flynn because he been brought up in GB in a WCO type offense and after having gotten his big deal from Seattle he's been bounced around enough to become an NBA basketball so signing him for a minimum shouldn't be too big an issue. Mind you I'm not saying Flynn should get the job only that out of the names on that list he's one that should be considered. JMHO

    I think we're looking for vet competition for Palmer here not a #3 QB. Ideally we want to carry just two QBs on the 53 man roster and keep the other on the PS for now like we did last year. We'll only need one vet backup unless Cutler gets hurt again and then if needed we can sign another vet like we did with Palmer. So the plan of attack should be to create vet competition for Palmer with the winner getting the #2 spot and the other, having learned at least some of the offense, hanging in the wings in case we do need him later on.

    And then we have the opinions of CaptainHookShot who among other things believes we should sign Tim Tebow as #3, should have kept Josh McCown and traded Cutler to Houston for their 1st round pick and used it to draft Teddy Bridgewater or Manziel. Stellar GM work there CHS. Gimme an hour to stop laughing before I blow these ideas up will ya'? :14 6 6[1]:

    There so much wrong with all of it that I won't even bother to comment except to say, try a dunk next time, this hook shot didn't even touch iron. :tempfall:
     
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    And that's exactly what any vet tryouts should be attempting to do. Palmer has the advantage of having already been through one camp and a portion of the regular season learning the offense. That alone gives him a leg up on any competitor. The #2 needs to know the offense well enough to be a competent "game manager" which is what McCown did as well as anyone in that role has for a very long time.

    Whichever one or two vets we might bring in are there to compete with Palmer for the #2 slot and unless someone takes it away from him he's it. In all likelihood the third QB won't even make the 53 man roster. He'll be a prospect from later in the draft or an UDFA we'd like to develop from there. Many teams aren't keeping a 3rd QB on the active roster anymore but if they're smart they have one waiting by the phone who does have enough experience and familiarity with the offense to come in an play if both the #1 and #2 go down.

    If we follow suit with what we've done in the past that's how it will workout this year too.
     
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    Omg, I LMAO on that one. I saw that post earlier but refrained from commenting to not stoke the fire. Yeah, that was a doozy.

    Apparently the Captain thought Cutler wasn't worth jack to the Bears but would somehow also command the #1 overall pick in trade. And then we would use that pick to draft Johnny "bust in the making" Manzierre or Teddy "couldn't hit a stationary locomotive on my pro day" Bridgewater.

    Wow, just wow......
     
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    Well you know me, and I tend to kick "sleeping dogs" too just to find out whether they have teeth or not. It's just one more bad habit I have. LOL

    Yep, the old my QB isn't worth it to me but maybe you'll swap me the grand daddy of premium picks for him. LMAO. And then to think that ANY QB in this draft would be an equal of Cutler NOW, when we'd need him to be is even more ludicrous. At last count Teddy is quietly slipping back and may possibly not make the top ten and some are so frightened of his bust factor they don't even have "Johnny" Football" on their list period and still others don't even see him as a 1st round pick.

    Brother pot is legal out here now and there's some really good shit around but unless CHS is getting his by mail order from here I want him to ship me some of his local growth because it must be far more potent. It's hallucinogenic. LOL
     
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    People don't you know to run Trestman's offense the only thing you must possess is brain power and sexy Rexy has zero of that.
     
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    Lmaooo......that gave me a good laugh.
     
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