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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by JustAnotherBearsFan99, Nov 24, 2013.
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Has anyone seen 16 games played yet ?
Yes, we don't have enough "sample size" yet.
That must be it.
All Tucker needs to do is hold every team to 100 total yards and 3 points each for the next 5 games and he will get to #22 in the NFL. I have total confidence in him. Let's sign him up to be our kickass DC for the next 5 years.
Okay, you might be exaggerating my "defense" of Tucker here, but anyway, I was referring to how much of an improvement the entire 49ers team made once they fired Singletary and hired Harbaugh.
Now, to ask you a question: Do you, or do you not think that a good part of the reason why this defense is so bad this year is because of injuries? If not, why do you feel that way?
Now, here's something interesting I found out about Tucker, and probably why he was viewed as a possible HC candidate if the defense did well this year: In his first year in Jacksonville, the Jags jumped from 28th in total yards allowed, 27th in points allowed and 30th in takeaways to 6th best in total yards allowed, 11th in points, and 11 in takeaways. Everyone harps on his defense with the Jags last year, BUT, they lead the league in having 22 players on the injured reserve. There IS a point at which using "injuries" as part of why a defense or offense failed is just an excuse, but if you're leading the league in most players on injured reserve, you're probably not going to do very well. Now with Chicago, he's got 3 DT's that have missed considerable time(2 on IR), 2 linebackers that have missed considerable time (one on IR), and our best cornerback, when he was healthy, really wasn't healthy, and is now on IR.
If we can hold the opposing running game to under 260 yeards rushing ...
You're gonna get that reaction anytime you say "Rex".
For years, the Bears defense was anchored by four outstanding players: Urlacher, Briggs, Peppers and Tillman. A few others were pretty good (Melton, Jennings, etc.) comprised a good supporting cast, but those four were head and shoulders above the rest. They all got old, and none of them have been adequately replaced. One retired, two hurt, and one still pretty good but clearly not what he was. The Bears have been spending their money on offense (all new O-line, big receivers/tight end, running backs and a decent back-up qb), and that side of the ball is improved, but the defense has suffered. I don't know if Mel Tucker is good at his job or not, but I think it is unrealistic to expect this Bears defense to be as good as it has been in recent years. The talent level is simply not the same.
At least it will be an exciting off-season. Changes must be made; just don't know who yet.
Every team has injuries. If Tucker can get us to average or better next season, I'll be satisfied. I see this as a 3-yr. project. SuperBowl 2016.
He had a good year with the Browns and a good year with the Jags. Not much positive to balance the bad years. Head coach? You have to be kidding me.
I'm not arguing with you, but this is interesting, regarding last season: "Five was also the magic number for the 2012 season, as Tucker only had five starters play all 16 games for him on defense last season."
Um, with a mostly healthy roster (the Jags STILL had a lot of injuries in 2011), he did a pretty amazing turnaround from the previous year. As far as Head Coach, I'm not making this up:
"Mel Tucker, defensive coordinator, Chicago Bears
Terrific defensive coordinator who has turned moderately talented groups into pretty good units with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Cleveland Browns. Was the Jaguars' interim head coach in 2011 and went 2-3 with a squad that was 5-11 on the season. Of course, those two wins came against the ten-game losing streak Bucs and the 2-14 Indianapolis Colts."
"Tucker was considered a head coaching candidate and interviewed for a few positions."
"Former Badger and now Jacksonville Jaguars D-Coordinator, Mel Tucker, is a name that's picking up steam. #Badgers #OnWisconsin"
More random facts about Tucker:
Over his four-year run in Cleveland, the Browns ranked fifth overall in interceptions (73) and fourth overall in passes of over 20 yards allowed (78). He was the DB coach for them until his last year.
As DC, the 2008 Browns had the second most interceptions in the NFL, an impressive stat considering that the Browns had the third fewest passing attempts thrown against them and languished in sack statistics.
Oh, and remember the stat that I threw out about the amazing improvement the Jags had from 2010 to 2011? 2011 was the year Jack Del Rio relinquished play calling duties to Tucker. Repeating something I said earlier in the post: Tucker only had five starters play all 16 games for him on defense last season.
Considering the dearth of talent that he's been faced with in Cleveland, Jacksonville and here, the fact that he automatically gets more out of his starters, when he has starters, is enough for me to want to keep him around for the inevitable shakeup of the roster on the defensive side.
Please quit trying to discount the injuries that his defenses have suffered as some sort of "proof" that he can't coach. Dude was really good as a DB coach, running a 3-4, and could coach pretty damn well with a 4-3, as well.
I'm going to have to say this, because someone will miss the point of what I'm saying: He is certainly worth keeping around for another year. I'm not saying he's great, but with an infusion of new blood into this defense, there's a very good possibility that this defense could surprise everyone next year.