Realistically, after just seeing the top teams play, when do you see us winning championships?

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    It was a jaw-dropping "reality check" to see just how powerful the best teams in the NFL are right now. When you consider how weak we were this season, getting swept by the lowly Detroit Lions, and even in a year where the Packers were at their weakest point in years, we couldn't win the division championship - how many years until,

    1. we can once again be the "Big Dog" in the NFC-N and win the division championship?

    2. we can compete against, and beat, teams like the Seattle Seahawks and WIN a Super Bowl?

    And a follow-up question, do you think Mel Tucker has the gears to coach us up a defense that is powerful enough to compete with the big boys of the NFL in the playoffs?
     
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    I think Tucker is the million dollar question. If he is solid a couple years. If we start anew again tack on a couple more years( starting over sucks)
     
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    1) If the team hadn't given Cutler a crazy high contract(definately no home town discount) It would be sooner, but that isn't the case, and the team will have to build mostly through the draft and some creative FA moves on some bottom tier 1 guys and some other mid level FA's. Emery HAS TO stop reaching on draftees and start hitting at all levels.
    2) Seattle made a turn around in 2-3 years, many teams have, there is no reason the Bears cannot build a legit D in that time, if not sooner

    Gotta give up on the Tucker hate, even BU(who could have easily bashed him and defended his players) said the problem was the players on the field and not the coaches. Hate to ruin your days Tucker haters, but the players ex and current are telling you the coaches couldn't have done better then they did. The only complaints I heard were about the assistants and they felt things would be better this year w/improved coaching, younger players, and health.
     
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    I don't hate any of our current coaches. And I haven't given up on Mel Tucker. But I don't give him a free pass as we move forward. He either produces. Or he doesn't. Just to be perfectly clear, FWIW, I haven't given Emery or Trestman a free pass moving forward either (although I realize they're still on their honeymoon period at this point and the fans are all giddy about 'em right now, like they were with Angelo and Lovie at one time). With me it's all "results oriented" and no love or hate. Coaches and players both have to produce to win championships. I'm all about winning.

    Hey, there was a time when I thought Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith were the best thing since peanut butter, and we'd have sustained winning with that combo. I was wrong. Now I'm more careful about giving people undeserved passes for mediocrity or failure. Tucker gets a pass for this past season. He won't get one from me for future seasons. It's not hate. It's all results oriented with me now.
     
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    I honestly think the offense can hang with either team we saw last night, and it is not every year that a dominate defense is in the big game.

    Too many years we have seen a good team play out of their minds in the playoffs, get healthy, and win a championship.

    I think this year was the first in many years where the "best" team in the NFL actually won.
     
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    That is exactly how I see it. But also, Emery needs to get Tucker the players too. Those are the two variables in the championship equation........but I guess that's obvious. Emery feeds Mel the players, and then he needs to put a viable defense in place that can get us to the promised land - and a Lombardi Trophy. Man, I am so tired of the annual excuses as to why it's okay for Green Bay to own the division, and our team has languished for over a quarter-century since our lone Super Bowl win. We can see with our own eyes what powerful NFL teams look like. We need to find a way to get there. We're either winners. Or losers. I really don't care about hearing excuses anymore.
     
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    The number may not be a discount, but the terms of the contract certainly were. We take any of that money and turn into bonus money to spread it out, or we could walk away clean after 3 years. Find me a deal that had come anywhere close to those terms.
     
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    Contract certainty wasn't what was needed, qb play certainty is what was needed, and he didn't give you that or even availability, he was once again hurt. You gave a 30 year old qb, that hasn't been able to stay healthy, or vastly improve his very average game 16-20 mil over the next 3 years. That's picking Shea McClellen stupid w/out the Kyle Long ceiling.
     
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    We'll agree to disagree.
     
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    deep playoff run over the next 3 years are the only thing that will resolve that disagreement, the Bears get 3 runs in the playoffs w/at least 1 sb birth money well spent, don't get that then that money and time was wasted.
     
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