Recommend new name for Redskins

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  1. 4th and 26

    4th and 26 George Halas Staff Member

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    Again it is a nick name and I doubt it was uses to insult Native Americans. I doubt Chiefs, Braves, Indians are used to put down the American Indian either.
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    Would you go up to a Native American today and call him a redskin?
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    Would you go up to Native American today a call him Native American, Brave, Chief, Seminole, Illini.......I wouldn't other than hello. I don't know what you can say to people of different ethnicity today without making sure it's completely sterile.

    Maybe it's time to wipe anything referenced to this specific people group off the books so as not to offend them in anyway. That way future generations will never know they existed thereby eliminating any possible way in offending them. I always believed when you referenced something or someone in a satirical way gave validity to that specific group by that school or team by being proud to wear it on your shoulder. I have yet see a team take nickname like talibannys or natzzs even the Devil gets more respect from teams and schools.
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    I prefer not to get punched in the face, so no.
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    Again go back to what was posted, not all Indians have a problem w/the NFL team in Washington being called the "Redskins", and earlier this month when they met w/some senators and Snyder there was a whopping 1 protester.

    Maybe if this was an issue for the VAST majority of Indians the name would be changed already, but the fact that it's split to the point where those offended are actually a SMALL minority makes the issue moot.
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    4th and 26 George Halas Staff Member

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    Would you go up to a person in New York and call them a giant? Would you call a person in Philly a eagle? In Wisconsin would you call a person a Packer, probably not but a cheese head maybe.
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    Nice deflection.

    Doesnt matter how many people take offense to it. There aren't any slaves in America (well not legally, anyway), yet nobody is going to start a team called the "Georgia Cotton-Pickers." Ethnic Slurs should not be used for team names, period. And when it comes to individual Tribes' names, then that is up to the tribes themselves whether or not they give permission (like the Seminoles)
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    4th and 26 George Halas Staff Member

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    Ok I will answer your question, I would say Hi and not bring up color, race, background, religion, politics or other bull shit because I don't care about it.
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    But if its just a nickname, then why not use it? Just like you would call a guy "dude" or a woman "miss" without issue, why not refer to them as "redskins?" Or if not you personally, then would you object to someone who goes up to a Native American and says "hey there redskin, how's it going?" Would that be an acceptable greeting?
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    Oh, I think it DOES matter how many people are offended. One of the polls of people of indian descent out there (sue me I don't have the link) had about 95% didn't care about the moniker. If just a few people don't like it then it's just being pissy.

    People don't call each other by monikers.

    What's the saying: "if your offended by small things only small things you shall be".
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    No it does not matter, since traditionally, people in the majority have always denigrated those in the minority.
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    It is a football teams name and I doubt the origin of the name to was to offend native Americans. The name is no different than any other football teams name with an exception someone is getting butt hurt over the name. I would not doubt someone on this planet is offended by the Bears name. I doubt people in todays world go up to native Americans and say Hey there Redskin, how's it going.
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    Because they realize it is an offensive ethnic slur, and as a society, we have moved on past the point where those are acceptable, especially when used for a billion dollar global sports franchise.

    But, to spin it another way, i have yet to hear any concrete argument as to why they should keep it other than "tradition." It has no historical significance (like "Blackhawks"), it does not represent an actual tribe of people (like "Seminoles"), nor does it represent the namesake of the state (like "Illini"). The only argument i hear is "well, they've always had it, so stop getting offended, tradition!!" The problem with that, is that all it does is reinforce stereotypes and prejudice, if people see it as an acceptable term to use for a Sports team, then why shouldnt it be acceptable to use when describing actual Native Americans?

    And i am not surprised in the least to see your strawman argument about "Bears are offensive to somebody," way to miss the point completely.
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    No clue what that means.
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    4th and 26 George Halas Staff Member

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    Yeah that is it. sarcasm

    That is all you are doing with this argument.
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    Thats all ANYONE is doing on this topic.
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    I understand why people are upset about the name, but it seems like this is a "force feed" from the liberal media. When the people demand a change (what bravery too, forcing their political opinions towards a football team in Washington D.C., of all things), then they'll get it.
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    Holy poop as part American Indian I object to the direction of the feather on the logo.
    Change it to Washington Bullets
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    Since they have Merriweather, maybe Wash headhunters?
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