Recommend new name for Redskins

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  1. Henry Burris

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    A linguistic analysis of books published between 1875 and 1930 show an increasingly negative context in the use of redskin, often in association with "dirty", "lying", etc.; while benign or positive usage such as "noble" redskin were used in a condescending manner.
    Bruce Stapleton (March 6, 2001). Redskins: Racial Slur or Symbol of Success?

    I hope this passes the board's admittance on what would be considered a racial or ethnic slur, and proper documentation of such.
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    Shhh...there is no super officially documented and notarized proof that Redskin was a anything but a term of endearment.
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    no one said anything about endearment. The fact is its not remotely perceived as a racial slur like the so called N word. I can yell Redskins in a crowded room and nothing is going to happen to me. I wont get my ass kicked or have any legal problems with police or what ever
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    and football betting is big business, the last thing Indians want to do is piss off a large fan base and lose money in their casino's LOL
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    So called N word? Please tell me you find the n word offensive.

    And speaking of the N word.... If you walk up to a black man and call him a black skin.... What do you think happens to you?
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    so called N word , IE I didn't type it in full is all I was doing/saying..just like you just did just now...but lets type it...******...now,thats the so called N word I was talking about. No, LOL I'm not a racist
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    Probably because it's called snark.
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    LOL I don't know that word either ?
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    Trust me.... if you are CALLING someone a name that references the color of their skin.. it's a slur.

    Yea, whitebread... that includes you and I.

    Really shouldn't be much of a conversation about if it's currently a slur or not... IT IS.

    The questions are:

    1) Was it a slur when originally applied to the team?

    And then...

    2) Is it sufficiently offensive enough now to warrant a change? Does "tradition" or original "intent" mean anything, and if so... what's the big deal? If not, where do we draw the line against a nation/culture that finds itself perpetually offended about everything?

    You all know my answer: I won't call someone a Redskin, or a N***** or anything else. More often than not, if they tell me they are offended when someone does, I'll tell them to STFU and get over it. Nothing pisses me off then those that are easily offended over a word. I firmly believe that you're giving some level of control over your life to someone else if you get so spun up over their use of a word. Tell them it offends you and THEN.MOVE.ON.
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    Its not the word itself that is offensive, words are just words. Its the intent behind using a specific word. If someone tells you they are offended by something you say, then instead of telling them to "STFU and get over it," perhaps you should look at it from their perspective and try to understand why they feel offended. And yes, i know that sometimes people are just ridiculous about it, but that still doesnt mean that you are not being offensive, whether you realize it or not.

    People love to criticize our "PC culture," but the reason WHY our culture is "PC" now, is because all of these minority groups who have been insulted and denigrated for decades and centuries even, are finally at the point where they can say "i am offended by what you are saying to me" without fear of reprisal or even more denigration towards them. Sometimes people go overboard with it, no question. Still...that does not excuse every instance.

    But, like i said above...the solution to this Redskins name is simple: they can keep the name, but remove their trademark protection. It will work itself out.
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    LOL the NFL isn't giving time to 1000 lousy little complainers who don't buy their product.
    there is no Racism involved. No Indians are hurt directly or indirectly by anything the Redskins do or don't do.
    Their arguments are unfounded and unproven. The 30 page report they put in is a bunch of bias, unscientific drivel.

    they were given 1 hour. That means the NFL doesn't care and has other more important things to handle.
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    Redskin is just as much of a racial slur as the N word or any other racial slur for that matter.

    The reason it is not as widely perceived as such most likely has to do with the fact that Native Americans are a smaller minority in this country. Less people to take offense means less people take notice but does not mean it is any less of a racial slur.

    The name references the way someone looks and in Alot of cases in a way that is perceived as derogatory.

    I'm not trying offend anyone with my next statement. I am in no way racist I am just trying to prove a point. Let me apologize in advance if I have offended anyone. The name Redskins is no different than there being hypothetical teams being called the New York Negroes, the San Francisco Yellow Men, or the Tennessee Rednecks. All are equally offensive.
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    simply,..none of this is true. No white people see the Redskins logo and hear the name and immediately think "yep haha, we stuck it to those stupid Redskins/Indians" and Indians far and wide aren't in a uproar about it. Just some so called pseudo intellectuals from a tiny group and the dumb tree hugging white people they got to tag along. Saying that its the same as saying ****** is just something you heard and are passing along but theres no consensus proof of such anywhere. Yankee is a historically bad term but no one is bitching about that
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    Mentioned this earlier.... But you are wrong.

    When a patriotic(ish) song refers to us as Yankees it is not offensive.
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    Yankee IMO is the same as a rebel.... But one is north, the other is south
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    no i'm not wrong. Southerners used/use it as an offensive term. And by the pc crowd logic..if only one person believes this is true then it needs to change. Anyone who says that if one person is offended then it needs to change has become indoctrinated in to the pc cult of blatant stupidity. There is no threat of intolerance or hatred or anything to any indian nation because the Redskins call themselves the Redskins. Its all a bunch of pretend bolshevik . There is no actual population of Indians that give a damn about this. Its just an internet rumor that dumb white people have bought into.
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    Further find me ONE definition of Yankee that is a "slur" if any kind. It is another name for a northerner

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