Recommend new name for Redskins

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  1. The Benjamin

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    So being called a northerner is an insult?
     
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    But.... Getting back to slurs.... Of being called a Yankee was a slur it is an "attack" based on where you LIVE

    Not on your race, ethnicity or heritage.

    Notice the difference?
     
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    Btw us northerners called ourselves Yankees before you southern folk started using it as an "insult"

    In fact, Southerns were also called Yankees back in the revelationary war days by the Britts.

    Again, it's a term directed at location

     
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    people in the South do use it as a term to mock and insult Northerners. That is a simple fact.
    I have heard my relatives in Arkansas and Louisiana use it many times between the 1980s and now.
     
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    Again... based on LOCATION!

    Say it with me now. I know you are a southerner, so I will try to go slow...

    Lo-Ca-tion

    Do you not get the difference between a term directed at a specific location a person lives and a term directed at their race?

    And while southerners may "think" it is an insult to call us Northerners.....Northerners.... all you are doing is calling us what we are. NORTHERNERS.

    It is like calling someone who lives in Indiana a Hoosier... which means a resident of Indiana....

    Calling someone a Yankee is no more an insult than saying I live in Chicago
     
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    Is he seriously bringing up the "Yankee" crap again?

    Already went over this...Yankee was basically the Dutch version of the name "Johnny" and was a popular name for dutch men in the pre-colonial era, which British later used as an insult for Colonials in general.

    For this analogy to have any standing, "Redskins" would have to be a common name that Native Americans had for each other, which obviously is not the case, and hence, a piss poor analogy, aka "grasping at straws."
     
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    And i have yet to see ANY valid argument as to why they should keep their name, but i keep seeing a repeating pattern:

    1.Deflecting criticism by claiming that those who are offended are such a small number as to be inconsequential (which is completely immaterial...a slur is still a slur, regardless of how small the minority in question is.)

    2.Using History of the team as reason enough why it shouldnt be changed. (again...immaterial, doesn't matter about how long their tradition is, since it doesn't change the fact that it is still a slur).

    3.Or by brining up strawman analogies, like "yankees" which have no comparison at all to the topic at hand.

    So yeah...try to defend the reasoning to keep the name without resorting to one of these 3 tactics. This shit is getting old.
     
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    excuses,excuses...my point is ,logic has nothing to do with it. One person is offended by Yankee no matter what so something must be done about it. The Redskins argument is weak and just a bunch of pc bullshit.

    lol No, I'm not southern. I was born in California and have relatives in Wisconsin too...my dads side of the family I Yankee LOL.

    My moms side is the Southern hicks
     
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    For crying out loud, the issue is NOT that "people are offended" by the name, it is that the name is a racial slur. end of story. Period. Thats all the reason anyone needs to object to the name.
     
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    No one feels insulted by being called a Yankee.

    But again.... it is a term used to describe where someone lives.

    Redskin is used to describe a race/ethnicity

    There is a big difference
     
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    a slur is unimportant if it affects nothing and no one. and calling the Redskins football team the Redskins does nothing to harm any Indian anywhere in this country. They are bitching about nothing and will gain nothing from getting their way in this and quite frankly will generate more hatred if they succeed in getting their way. Oneida is a big loser pansy tribe among native Americans LOL.
     
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    No, its only an issue because a few Oneida losers say they are offended
     
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    Which is it?

    BTW.... would calling a football team the "Blackskins" be offensive?
     
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    My what faulty logic you have.

    Using that logic, why not have teams like the "Georgia Cotton Pickers," or the "Kentucky Uncle Toms" "Memphis Mammys"
     
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    According to my Racial Slur Database blackskins did not make the list. Neither is whiteskins or yellowskins but Yankee is "Slang used by the British. Also used in the former Confederate states to refer in a derogatory fashion to people of the Union states. Slur perhaps originally used derisively against the Dutch, calling them "John Cheese" (they made/ate a lot of cheese); Non-English speaking Dutch called back to the Americans, yelling "Yankee" (mispronunciation). Might also be a bastardization of "Jan-Kees", a common Dutch name."
     
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    plot thickens
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/30/a...ronted-by-tribe-advocate-at-press-conference/

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/30/anti-redskins-activist-confronted-by-tribe-advocate-at-press-conference/#ixzz2jWBhBx3v



     
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