Redskins name vs. Fighting Irish

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  1. ChiCityBears

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    I do not know if Irish at Notre Dame picked themselves to be their school's mascot, but if Irish did not pick it, should it be changed just like Redskins has to be changed?
     
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    It's a leprechaun. That's a mythological creature, hon. And yes, there's plenty of folks of Irish descent involved with ND. They just put up a statue of the little monster a couple months ago so I guess they are still okay with it.
    Washington's mascot is not as much of a problem as their name, which is pejorative and references actual non-mythological people. People who get called "Irish" don't get very bent out of shape over it.
    Not a very effective comparison really.
     
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    I am Irish. Call me Irish all you want. Not offensive whatsoever. A leprechaun mascot vs an Indian mascot......

    BIG difference.

    A better comparison would be Redskins vs BlackHawks and even that has holes as the Chicago BlackHawks were not technically named after an Indian tribe but a WW2 combat troop which was named after a brave warrior named Black Hawk, not a tribe, not a race
     
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    fighting Amish
    fighting Quakers
     
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    Nothing wrong by calling them by the actual names of their actual group.

    Fighting farmers
    Fighting Soldiers
    Fighting Eskimo
    Ect

    It is the nickname which is a slur that is the issue. Surely even you know that, unless I am over estimating you
     
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    BTW... Here is an excellent comparison to the Fighting Irish

    Fighting Americans.... There an issue with that?
     
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    ultimately there aint a damn thing wrong with Redskins either when its all said and done because again...not one single damn Indian in this entire country is victimized in any way,shape or form because the Redskins call themselves the Redskins.
    And its become increasingly evident that the guy pushing the agenda doesn't even care. He's just doing it for political gain.
     
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    LOL hell yes there would be because in the pc culture that would be anti-everyone else in their pc colored eyes
     
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    It's okay Rams. We get it.

    You are okay with using racial terms, and using them as team names.

    You have made your point quite clear.
     
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    no, your perception has created an issue where there is none. Just pc silliness taken too far. Changing the Redskins name wont do one damn thing to improve or change Indians culture or history or lives in any way,shape or form.
     
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    You hate all this "PC bullshit", you like to call a spade a spade. You throw out slurs and feel you are allowed to do so all while hiding behind your whole "can't prove intent" BS line. You feel that because just as long as the person using such words (while directing them at various races) claims they are not using them as hate speech it is okay.

    You have shown exactly who and what you are, as well as what you believe in.

    If you are content with what you are, so be it.
     
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    again, you are showing perception and not FACTS. I am not racist nor have I ever been. Talking about something and quoting words does not mean anything other than you typed them and defined them. It doesn't prove meaning or intent or suggest hate in any way.

    hate speech= another stupid pc term taken too far.
     
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    I did not call you a racist. I pointed out observations from your posts where you have said exactly what I pointed out in the last post.

    Your assuming I was calling you one based on what I pointed out does speak volumes though
     
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    I'll take Washington and the points.
     
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    Ill give you the Skins at -20.5
     

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