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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by The Benjamin, May 10, 2014.
Tampa gave McCown how much after one year of success after how many years of meh?
Like I said, if we get anything higher than a 6th for him I'm ecstatic. Seems underwhelming but hey.. go prove me wrong kid. If he's a perfect fit for our offense like it says then he very well could put on a show and earn us a draft pick.
I see Fales as a new McCown, he could be an useful backup
If he brings McCowns work ethic he very well could be. This offense is set up for the QB to succeed.
last qb I would have wanted, but it's a start. The system Tresticles runs doesn't demand a huge arm, which is one or the reasons that McCown looked as good as he did; the other being that all the talent around him made him shine more then he made them shine.
If the kid can make the correct reads, and get the ball out to the correct play at the correct time he's as good as Palmer is....Palmer is as life long awful as McCown was, so why shouldn't Fales have as much of an opportunity to succeed as either of them?
"I don't believe in late-round QBs" - Phil Emery..
Emery will always surprise us.. Expect the unexpected
He also said he didn't like any of the S's after the top 2, and skipped the top 2 and took one late.
Maybe he just likes fuckin' with us.
I'd also point out he said that they don't develop into long term starters, that doesn't mean they cannot be quality backups for a few years before falling out. If it could happen anywhere, it's going to happen here in Chi-Town w/Trestman and 3 pro bowl weapons and a stud OL though.
Hope he can play Safety.
here's B/R's report on him:
David Fales NFL Draft 2014: Highlights, Scouting Report for Chicago Bears QB
By Ryan Lownes , Featured Columnist
Apr 9, 2014
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David Fales, QB, San Jose State (HT: 6’1⅝”, WT: 212 lbs.)
Sixth Round: 183rd Pick
NFL Comparison: Andy Dalton, QB, Cincinnati Bengals
Combine Weigh-inHeightWeightArmHand601521231 3/4"9 1/4"
Combine Workout40-yd dash10-yd splitVertBroad3-ConeShuttle4.991.6928"8'7"7.554.50
Generally does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield when he is flushed out of the pocket
Good functional mobility, maneuvering the pocket well and evading the pass rush
Demonstrates pocket presence, identifies pass rushers and possesses the necessary spatial awareness
Shows poise, reacting well to pressure situations and making throws while staring down the barrel
Manipulates coverage with his eyes
Confidently throws over the middle of the field. Attacks the short, intermediate and deep levels between the hashes
Displays touch and some anticipation
Fairly elusive in the pocket, makes defenders miss
Can throw accurately on the move
Has the intelligence teams look for from their quarterbacks, picked up a new system quickly as a senior and exhibits good decision-making on the field
Effective play-action passer who does a nice job of selling fakes to give him more space and time to throw
Good ball security, successfully limited turnovers. Threw interceptions on just 2.3 percent of his passing attempts and did not fumble often
A winner who exhibits good leadership ability, led his Spartans to their first 11-win season during the school’s time in major college football. Served as a team captain during his senior year
Slides to protect his body in the open field
Extremely productive during his two seasons at San Jose State
May lack the arm strength to make all of the necessary throws at the next level, does not throw with enough velocity
Undersized for an NFL quarterback. Lacks prototypical height at 6’1 5/8” and muscle definition
Passes outside the numbers tend to lose a lot of steam
Not an exceptional athlete, had a mediocre showing during athletic testing at the NFL Scouting Combine
Deep ball will not strike fear into defenses, has a limited range compared to most of his peers
Footwork is a work-in-progress and he must be more consistent with his follow-through
Will not hurt opponents with his scrambling ability, lacks the speed to break off big runs
Occasionally a bit of hitch is evident in his throwing motion, especially when trying to compensate for lack of arm strength
Typically a good decision-maker, but occasionally bypasses his check-down and holds on to the ball for too long
Struggled a bit at the Senior Bowl, where he failed to consistently drive the ball downfield or outside the numbers
May not meet the physical baselines for several teams, his measurable traits are more in line with NFL backups than starters
After finally settling in at San Jose State, David Fales enjoyed a very productive starting stint. While lacking prototypical size, arm strength and raw athleticism, he is an accurate passer that demonstrates pocket presence and functional mobility.
His physical deficiencies make him more of a backup candidate than a true developmental option, but he is a good enough football player to stick in the league for a long time. He fits best in a West Coast offense that emphasizes his accuracy and efficiency.
If Cutler is the starter for the next 2-3 years, then they need a legit backup, and Fales might...MIGHT be a good option.
Really does sound like McCown 2.0.
I was wrong, I'm even happy with this pick. Damn good draft.
Chicago 66, lol McCown is what I'm thinking...and TB made him a starter lol!
Maybe once McCown retires and if Glennon falls through we can convince Lovie this is the player he wanted and get a first out of him!
The trouble is that he doesn't have McCown's size, mobility, pocket presence or his arm strength but other than that he JUST like him. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Without NFL arm strength I don't think he'll be worth a whole lot to others either but who knows what he may become under Cavanaugh and the QB Whisperer. There weren't any better vet FAs left and we needed at least one more arm for camp so he was probably a better prospect than the UDFA guys left out there. I wish Savage had still been there.
eh, 6th round pick, not a lot at risk. But, 1 week ago Emery says no sense drafting a QB late rounds. Then he goes and drafts this kid in the 6th. Maybe Phil yielded to one of the other staff who sees something here?
I guess I would have rather wasted a pick on a TE or OL.
except that McCown isn't really known for his arm either, it's why he worked in this system. McCown is more mobile, but Fales has good pocket presence and good field awareness
I dunno, from the reports it seems like he has exceptional pocket presence and is really good at moving around and making people miss in the pocket. He definitely doesn't have the size but other than that they sound about the same. No way I'd give kudos to McCown for his arm strength. I remember the windy game we had to run all one quarter cause there was no way he was going to be able to throw in those winds.
So I went to SJSU and got to see Fales first hand. I've got to say I think this is an awesome pick-up for us and I really think this kid could surprise some people. In 2012 he had a ridiculous season and there was a lot of buzz surrounding him. Some people were even saying that he could be a potential first or second rounder in this years draft after that season. Obviously that didn't happen but I think we got a good kid. He's extremely accurate and not only does he make good decisions, he avoids making bad ones. These are attributes that play extremely well in Trestman's system (ie: McCown). I don't see him as a future starter but he's a guy that, with some Trestman tutelage, could be a great back-up if/when Cutty gets injured.