Safety Position Big Thread

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  1. Grizzblue

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    I can already see with camp starting that we are going to have about a million threads regarding the safety spot so I figured we could condense most of the conversation and debate into one.


    So here is what we have as of now IMO.

    Conte-Currently on the PUP list and not what you want considering that he is in a make or break year
    Vereen-Looks alright/above expected in pre-pre-season. Needs to take that next step now the pads go on in order to lock down the job.
    Wilson-Former 6 time pro bowler. Health issues. If he can just be 75% of what he was then he may take one of the jobs.
    Mundy-Always seems to underpreform on teams with top talent at S. Now we can see if he is a bit unknown because of his abilities or the ones he was playing under. I think he is a longshot to start.
    Jennings- Longshot to make the 53 IMO. If he does it will come mostly from use in ST.


    My prediction for day one starters.....Vereen/Wilson (Insert Conte here if he is able to fully go in TC.
     
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    Good idea Grizz.

    I think we got some good news and some bad news today although IMHO the bad news was no surprise. I don't believe they ever expected Conte to be ready to practice before he second week of August anyway. It makes it a little tougher on him and the team but it is what it is.

    The good news is that Wilson's problem isn't as severe as we thought and that his workout went well. The guy is a "baller" and if he can play he gives us a physical presence at Safety we can surely use. In his prime he was flat out scary and he may still be at least to a degree.

    It's hard to rate Mundy just yet. We need to see him in action. He's played behind some very talented guys and there's no way of knowing just how good he might be now that he's in no ones shadow. He may have been nearly as good as guys like Clark and Polamolu but you don't best them for their spot by only being almost as good.

    If Conte's recovery is slower than expected and Wilson can play better than originally expected I wouldn't be shocked to see him and Mundy start the season at Safety. That kind of vet experience would be nice to have back there and Conte and Vereen probably wouldn't be lagging all that far behind them. I wouldn't make book on all four of those guys playing all 16 games this year without missing any time.
     
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    This makes so much more sense about one aspect of training camp.

    If we can continue forward and post threads about just one other position,

    and include them all in there it is going to make it so much easier to read.

    A QB thread ... a LB thread ...etc. Good work Grizz!
     
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    And this just in.............Steltz is on the PUP as well opening the door for Wilson just a it wider.
     
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    Indeed, good move, Grizz, to gather the threads into one ... thread (hmm).

    And like you I think the four realistic starter possibilities are, Conte, Mundy, Vereen, Wilson. We differ on who we would bet on for those spots. I think Conte/Mundy will be the starters. Mainly, I think that because I think the Bears have been convinced all along, presumably from their grades of game film of Conte and Mundy that those two are acceptable starter (I figure that is true because they were in no hurry in either the draft of free agency to get anybody else). Given that, and health in the Conte/Mundy pair, then I would be delighted to see Vereen/Wilson start since they would be beating out 'acceptable' starters and presumably better.

    Its preseason, time for dreams. One of mine is the late 4th rounder, Vereen, turning out to be an Ed Reed and the 34 year old Wilson turning out to be the 28 year old Wilson.
     
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    I'm right with ya' Roch and I also agree that at least going into camp Conte and Mundy were their intended starters and it may well end up that way too but having a rookie whose hungry for playing time and a tough old vet whose still full of pride close behind then isn't gonna hurt a damn thing.

    I'm getting a little bored with the media constantly harping on the Bears obvious weakness at Safety when it's like Emery never did a single thing to improve the situation and it's anything but obvious at least to me. We signed a career backup whose finally gonna get a shot at starting to show what he can do, an aging yet multiple time Pro Bowler chomping at the bit for a chance to show he's not washed up yet, and we draft a guy who may well turn out to be the best bargain S in this draft.

    That's not exactly doing nothing but because we didn't spend money of Jarius Byrd or T.J. Ward in lieu of the DL we're still hurting at S? :jimmipost:Some teams are paying a ridiculous amount of money to Safeties and yet without a decent pass rush they're gonna end up just as vulnerable as Conte and Wright did last year. I'm glad we spent the money where we did. That's the way Bears football is played. Put a stop watch on the QB and the DBs will all look much better.
     
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    After 'terrible' offseason, Wilson ready to prove himself to Bears

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    By Rich Campbell and Dan Wiederer, Tribune reporters
    7:02 p.m. CDT, July 24, 2014

    BOURBONNAIS — Adrian Wilson’s fitness satisfied the Bears during the workout that preceded his signing on June 23. He showed general manager Phil Emery enough of the burst that helped the strong safety play in five Pro Bowls during 12 seasons with the Cardinals.

    Wilson’s quest to win a starting job also involves a mental component, which begins Friday when he practices with the team for the first time. His crash course in the scheme included extensive study of his iPad playbook over the last month.

    “Every day,” he said Thursday outside the cafeteria at Olivet Nazarene University. “For the people who know me, they know how obsessed I am with learning the ins and outs of the defense.”

    After signing with the Patriots, Wilson missed the 2013 season with a condition known as Haglund’s deformity, in which an enlarged heel bone or bone spur causes bursitis in the heel. It required surgery on his Achilles tendon and 10 weeks in a hard cast.

    Now he’s here to beat out Chris Conte, fourth-round draft pick Brock Vereen and other veterans for a starting spot.

    “There’s no challenge, man,” Wilson said. “Football is football. I’m a guy who’s very prideful. I’m a little bit disappointed from last year. And I just came here to play football.”
     
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    Doesn't sound like Wilson is arriving with the intent on becoming anyone's backup does it?

    I'm pretty thrilled with the idea that he's here. To me he's the DB equivalent of Jeremiah Ratliff. Emery, Trestman, and Tucker wanted a defense that was tougher up the gut and plays with a chip on their shoulders and these are two guys coming off injuries who still have something left to prove. Lot's of pride in those two and they're gonna be out there playin' their asses off showing the younger guys how it's done in the NFL.
     
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    And its just DAY ONE ... :18 1 205:
     

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