Safety Position Big Thread

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    And thank God for that. We may not know if Wilson has much left, we may not know if Mundy can step his game up a bit from NY given an offseason as a 'starter', we may not know if McCray can be a legit NFL starter, we may not know how good Veneen is but we do know MD Jenning is a bad safety. He had lots of chances in GB and he proved he was bad. Looks like we may have 4 guys active and 2 on PUP who are better. Good, because that is a low bar.
     
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    Anybody getting a feeling towards what camp fodder is yet at Safety ?

    We cant keep all of them.
     
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    The New York Jets are never short on bold predictions.

    Dee Milliner said on Saturday that he is the best cornerback in the league and second-year quarterback Geno Smith followed up those comments by saying he would be a top-5 quarterback in the NFL.

    Veteran linebacker Calvin Pace felt he needed to chime in as well. Even though the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks dominated the league last year with their overpowering defense, Pace said the Jets defensive corps is better.

    “(Compared to) the rest of the defenses in the NFL? (Expletive), man, we’re the best,” Pace said, via the NY Daily News. “You ask anybody around the league, we’re not the team you want to see coming in, even in a down year.”

    New York finished last year with the 11th overall defense and were third-best at stopping the run.

    The Jets will have their work cut out for them, as Milliner and rookie safety Calvin Pryor are set to play major roles.

    Pace still said a Rex Ryan defense is one that other teams strive to be like.

    “We’re the benchmark when we’re doing well,” Pace said. “I’ll take these guys and Rex and this system any day.”

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    Seems like Adrian and Ryan were seen out together at dinner tonight. This could be a good sign of things to come? #starters

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    Adrian Wilson and Ryan Mundy just walked into the restaurant we are eating at and sat right behind us
     
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    I don't think there is any "camp fodder" at Safety. Emery made sure of that.

    Vereen aside every single one of those guys has started multiple NFL games and one is an All Pro. Even Conte and Steltz are far above being just "camp fodder". There's some real honest to God competition going on back there and the haven't even been able to hit yet.
     
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    If I were to venture a guess, I would say Jennings and Steltz are on the chopping block at this point. Question is will Wilson be ok with second team if he doesn't win the starting spot? If not, then maybe Steltz sticks around.
     
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    McCray is making a pretty strong bid to replace Steltz and I believe he will. Jennings will be history after one or two preseason games and after the hitting starts we'll see where Wilson is at. I give him pretty good odds of making it and of starting.
     
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    Mike Westhoff who was the fiesty Jets' Special Teams coach for a 1000 years and the star on HBO's Jets Hard Knocks had this to see about Dee's statement:

    "I’m not sure [Milliner] is best CB up here in Cortland. And I might include the university." :002:

    I love old guys, they give no f*cks and tell it like it is!
     
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    Green Bay Packers cornerback Sam Shields signed a $33 million contract extension during the off-season. His fellow starter Tramon Williams is a $9.5 million cap hit this year. And if reports out of Packers training camp are true, they won’t be allowed to do their jobs.

    According to a Packers.com post by Vic Ketchman, Referee Ed Hochuli and his crew threw flags on nearly every play of a one-on-one drill designed to illustrate how the new rules will work.

    Advantage: offense.

    “Get ready for a lot of points scored in the NFL this season,” Ketchman wrote.

    Remember the old Bell Telephone ad campaign, “Reach out and touch someone?” Not in the NFL.

    “Penalties are going to be really high this year and the fans are going to be booing because there’s going to be yellow flags all over the place,” backup cornerback Jarrett Bush, who was flagged once in the drill on Thursday, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal. “There’s going to be a ton of points on the board. There’s got to be something to help corners.”

    Darn those Seattle Seahawks anyway. They figured out how to shut down Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl, and now the league is scrambling to keep the offenses zooming along. We can’t have these pesky defensive backs making NFL quarterbacks look human.

    If this holds all season, it won’t be long before Richard Sherman is trash-talking Jeff Triplette on SportsCenter. Heck, this could revive Tim Tebow’s career.

    Physicality in the NFL, for defensive backs at least, apparently is over. From what I understand, if an official sees contact, he looks at the quarterback, and the passer still has the ball in his hand, it’s a penalty. This is how the man-press coverage scheme becomes the you’re-screwed coverage scheme.

    In addition, Hochuli told the Journal-Sentinel that position will be more greatly enforced – if a cornerback establishes a space, he has the right to that space, but stepping in front of a receiver to deflect or intercept a pass will be more difficult because the receiver now has the right to get there first. The veteran official likened it to the blocking call in basketball.

    “I would expect there may be more fouls called in the first preseason game and the first regular-season game,” Hochuli told the Journal-Sentinel. “The big one is holding. We’ve also tightened up the rule on illegal contact. We’ve always given a little leeway on that.”

    Not any longer. Scores are going to be big this year, and all the so-called shutdown corners in the league are going to be compromised, forced to learn a new way to do their jobs.

    Given this development, perhaps all that money the Packers spent on Williams would have been better spent on Randall Cobb.
     
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