So What's The Book On Peppers?..............

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  1. jackiejokeman

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    Soul,

    We need fresh juice.
     
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    Gotta have the grocery money to buy the juice Jackie and last year old Phil was shopping the sales at The Dollar Store. We need impact players jackie and you can only afford a couple of those in free agency if that in addition to keeping a few of your own and you can't count on rookies to be that year one unless you get very lucky. Last year we did in round one but after that pfffttt. The year before he blew round one but scored in round two with Jeffery. If you can get one impact player out of any one draft you're doing good.
     
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    Thanks brother. I just had to take some time away and wash the frustrations of last year away. Besides what else was there to talk about except to beat the Cutler deal to death and I saw way too much of that in a few other places I visited where I could post incognito. There was just more emotion involved with all of it than my logical or analytical side could handle and I was getting too caught up in that so it was time for a breather.

    I'm watching too and the only thing that concerns me is his failure to realize that it's his defense that will win a championship for him not his offense. The offense can get you there like it did Denver and Manning but when that offense meets a defense that's an immovable object it will fail every time. The only thing that even kept us in that Super Bowl against Indy was the defense and STeams. It was the offense who gave it away.

    Emery needs to restock that defense in short order and getting rid of Lovie's guys left and right won't do it. They still need their skills and their leadership right now until they can find or draft replacements and that takes time. He can't get that all done in one year any more than he could with the offense. That offense had Marshall, Jeffery, Forte, and Cutler and McCown already so with the exception of Bennett all the skill positions were set. He got lucky with Long and Mills and made good moves with Bushrod and Slauson and fixed the line but he didn't have all the free agent issues last year he has this year. This looks like it's gonna be trickier.
     
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    They rebuilt the O line in 1 year they can rebuild the D line in 1 year sit back and watch the magic.
     
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    Soul,

    In the new Pro-Bowl ... a rookie OL for DA BEARRSSE was playing.

    Thats what Emery did. The angle is can this be repeated on a DEFENSE that imploded ?

    Therin lays the proof ... a simple reflection of BEARS DEFENSE.

    OUR kind of BEARS defense though the years Soul.
     
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    The offense is still not 100% complete after 2 years. Recall that B.Marsh and AJ came year-1, the OL & TE position received attention year-2. They still need to find a more permanent solution for center, and also get a second receiving TE and swing tackle for the icing on the cake. Maybe get a different backup RB that costs less too.

    The D won't be fixed this year IMHO. Sure, I think they can take a serious step in the right direction this year, and in 2015 they will take another step. 2016 will probably be the icing on the cake for the D.
     
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    OK say you DTB but it took quite a bit of money and great luck with two draft picks to do it. Furthermore I don't quarrel with Emery's ability to find good offensive talent. It's his track record with defensive talent that concerns me. So far his moves there have ranged from barely passable to damn awful. So far not one of his defensive draft picks have lived up to expectations and overall his FA signings have been just fair. You can sit back and watch for the magic if you want but me, I'll be more on the edge of my chair watching.

    Drafting one DLineman who can play at a Pro Bowl level his first year would be a gift beyond anything I could imagine and if you recall Long was not originally elected to the Pro Bowl. Iupati was and Long took his place because of Iupati's injury. "No soup for you", LOL.

    Emery will not rebuild this defense in one year if he insists on getting rid of all of Lovie's top players as fast as he can. And I still believe that retaining Tucker was the wrong move. I also believe next January we'll be ready to ride him out of town on a Greyhound just like we all did this past January and maybe have Phil Emery driving the bus. Time will tell.
     
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    FA signings fair_ Guess it depends if you look at Marshall as a free agent, we traded a draft pick to keep him from free agency. you could argue he was a free agent. Slauson was a good FA signing. DJ got injured so will hold judgement.. the others I would agree as fair

    I hope you are wrong on the draft. Seems Angelo could not get a break on offensive picks and Emery has nothing to stand on for defense. I still think the jury is out on Bostic and not sure what you expect from Greene in the 4th or Isaiah Frey in the 5th. But definetly need a stud or two with the first two picks this yr to prove he can pick defensive talent as well

    2012 draft- Basically agree with you here. barely passable to awful for defense anyway
    mostly not good McClellin will be out of draft position if he makes it at all
    Jeffrey nothing special yr 1 but yr 2 proved to be a great pick
    Hardin and Rodrigues both gone one sucked and one had legal issues. Emery never should have drafted them
    Isaiah Frey- Solid for rd 5 will never probably be a starter unless forced by injury. Contributed at Nickelback

    2013 draft: Jury still out on Defense.
    Long . We all appreciate what he has done
    Bostic: Started at MLB after injury to DJ. Still think he has some game Hoping he will be like Jeffrey. Bold print above
    Greene _ played less than Bostic but played some. Much like Bostic the Jury is still out could turn into a good pick for round 4
    Jordan Mills Offense starting RT.
    Cornelius Washington. Late pick not much expected
     
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    I think Bostic and McClellin will be good ball players once they get them playing the positions they should be. Bostic needs to be at WLB and McClellin at SLB. Personally I don't either of them is cut out for MLB so they should bring DWill back for now and look for a young prospect to back him and learn the position. As far as Greene goes if he can't play any better than he did last year I'd cut him in camp. There are guys on the roster now who can outplay him. Washington is an unknown and he was a project pick anyway so anything we get from him is a move in the right direction. I'll also give him credit for the Bass pickup. The kid has promise.

    Emery's offensive moves have been great. I have no quarrel there at all. But it's defense we need and there I am concerned because as good as he's been on restocking that offense he's been miserable at doing it on the defense.
     
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    I cant put McClellin on Emery ... that seemed more Lovie.

    Lets look at what happened ... Urls didnt take the contract ... Nick Roach walked.

    Oh and Geno Hayes split also ... an Emery sign ?

    In an over compensational move, HALAS HALL hired and drafted every LB in sight.

    Thats where we are at today gentlemen.

    Well in one year Emery made us the fifth best offense in the NFL.

    When we sucked at it before.

    Now if he can just do that for DEFENSE ...
     
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