So What's The Book On Peppers?..............

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    I admit, that's a better way of putting it.
     
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    The problem is that he already has a big pay day coming, $14 mil worth this year alone and he's under contract through 2015. So we don't need to sign him we need to either get him to take a huge pay cut or release him. The trouble is (see above) that the prospects for replacing him either in FA or early in the draft are not very good at all. There are only two FA pass rushers worth pursuing and no DEs that are worth the #14 pick in the draft.

    So...........until Emery figures out what he's gonna do here he can't really make a move. This sure makes re-signing Corey Wootton look like more of an imperative so I don't know what Emery is waiting for.
     
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    Agreed.
    I think we need Wootton back regardless. If we can sign Bennett or Johnson, then Pep is as good as cut and CW mans the other side. Outside of Clowney, no DE rookie has risen up to be a legit option at #14 so let's not reach and instead take a player there who's value is appropriate (eg, Donald). We can draft a DE prospect 2nd - 4th round area to compete for a backup spot.
     
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    Accuse no, suspect yes. I truly believe Phil Emery's plan was and to an extent still is, to divest himself of Lovie's guys as quickly as he can subject to his cap limitations. He wants to rebuild "his team" and it's "his team" he wants to win a championship. Everybody has an ego right and successful people generally have the biggest ones. Fortunately for him he inherited an aging defense so he figured he could accomplish it pretty much on the QT and nobody would object too strongly if he spread it out over two or three years.

    But 2012 exposed his plan. Many of those key injuries were to some of the younger players or the free agents he signed. His first two drafts also failed to produce even one impact starter and some would question whether they ever will achieve that level of play based on what we've seen so far. So now he finds himself with a shit load of expiring contracts for these guys, no sure thing replacements on the roster, fewer free agents than he'd like that fit his needs, and a draft that's top heavy on offense but not as much on defense.

    Phil's painted himself in to corner here a bit and now it's time to see just how good a personnel guy he really is because from where I sit he really has his work cut out for him and so far it doesn't look like he even know for sure where to start. I'm hoping I'm wrong but I have this nagging feeling that a year from now were still gonna have many of these same concerns because the defense may have been weakened both in personnel and coaching beyond the ability of anyone to repair it quickly. JMHO
     
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    well some of those D signings were not all that bad, but it just didnt workout. D drafts were plain bad
     
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    Unless I miss my guess and if Wootton's hunch is also correct Emery is gonna let him hit FA on Saturday. He's been rehabbing at the Halas Hall but on Friday any of the guys who've been doing that, including Melton and Collins I would guess, get booted out of there until they're under contract again. So here these guys are putting in time and effort getting themselves healthy and yet they don't even know if their own team is gonna bring them back. Phil Emery may say he'd like them back but we all saw how that worked with Urlacher and Izzy last year.

    So can you understand why I have a certain mistrust and dislike for Phil Emery and his disingenuous statements to the press? I want to see a man with a plan and as far as that defense goes I'm not seeing it. They say we're sticking with a 4-3 and then at the same time say we'll base our scheme on the personnel we have. Well right now he has 20 unsigned of his own FAs and quite a few of them play defense. They play 8 man football at many of the smaller rural schools here in Colorado but so far I don't think that's caught on in the NFL. LOL
     
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    But some of them were and the drafts were horrible so far as far as replacing aging players which is why we've been discussing what to do with Peanut, Pep, and even the younger core defenders like Melton, Wootton, and Collins whose contracts he's allowing to expire without any sign at all of competent replacements for them. Maybe he a genius and he has this all figured out but nothing in the recent past indicates that's so. Until I see some moves that make sense my antenna is up and my suspicions are aroused.
     
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    Soul, I was as pissed as anyone when the BU situation ended like it did. But I grudgingly came to admit that Emery was RIGHT in his decision even if it could have been handled better. Urlacher was offered a deal that no one else in the NFL made him. Heck, he didn't even get any vet min offers we know of from 31 other teams.

    I certainly don't doubt that many new GMs and new HCs want to "put their stamp" on a team. But I see little evidence that Phil is trying to run "Lovie guys" outta town as fast as he can regardless of worth or value. As I pointed out, outside of Urlacher who was aging and slow and Roach, a udfa minor figure, the entire returning starting lineup on D last year were "Lovie guys". He just re-signed one of them (Jennings) as well as two others on offense (Cutler and Gould) to long-term contracts with Forte having gotten his 2 years ago.

    We don't know yet what is going to happen with Peppers, Tillman, and Melton. There are valid cases to be made either way that depend upon other factors we have discussed here. Pros and cons everywhere. I suspect that 1-2 will be gone and 1-2 will be back. But whoever goes and whoever stays, IMHO there are justifiable reasons for it beyond Emery just mindlessly cleaning house of the prior regime's players.
     
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    Does anyone here really want their GM mouthing off to the press about exactly what he's going to do like some sort of teenage schoolgirl gossiping in gym class?
     
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    You're misinterpreting my posts. That wasn't my point. I wasn't referring to talk, I was referring to action and some of his actions belie what few words he does choose to share. Some peoples arrows point up and other point down but for at least a year now his has been pointing sideways. I'll just use his own words and say that he had an 8-8 season too and I expected better because he promised better and what few moves I do see him making with the defense (beginning with retaining Tucker) don't exactly fill me with confidence.
     

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