Sounds like BMarsh wants to finish his career a Bear, doesn't want max money

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    No offense, but before repeatedly posting thoughts about contracts and numbers could folks please educate themselves a little bit about how cap & cash accounting works in the NFL? It's really not that hard for any serious fan to google a few articles and learn the basics.

    For weeks before Pep was released I was reading posts here about how he "was gonna get paid millions by the Bears this year even if cut". Geezus, read and learn the difference between guaranteed money and dead-cap money. Gets old explaining it over and over.
     
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    But why should we when you have us to set the record straight? :36_1_32v[1]:
     
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    Well that's just it. The teams now have to spend the majority of their cap money or be penalized for it. As long as the cap keeps increasing players salaries will go up. How crazy does it all seem now when Butkus's first deal was for about $50k a year and when Sonny Werblin signed Joe Namath for $400k for four years it was an international sensation with it's assorted claims that he was out to destroy pro football handing out a deal like that to a young college kid. Now the rookie minimum is more than $400k per year?
     
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    How much extra did Cutler get in bonus money this week again???
    :shoot:
     
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    Aw geez Benji. You know it's true so why be a smart ass about it. We go through this same damn thing year after year. I started posting cap numbers and calculations nearly 10 years ago and then our old friend DaBears 54 took over. Nothing has changed much about the basics of it since then and when in doubt there are sources like Spotrac that produce fairly accurate summaries of these deals.

    It gets a little annoying after all these years when some don't take the time to understand how it works after it's been explained so many times. Ten years ago hardly anyone knew how it all worked but now a whole lot of people do because they took the time to understand it. How hard is it to understand the differences between cash received and cap accounting. Christ if a person can balance their fucking checkbook they should be able to do that much math. It's not that hard.
     
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    Nothing, he loaned it to Robbie Gould who then pays it back to Brandon Marshall who'll then take even less $$$ so we can extend Alshon Jeffery. It's kind of a creative version of money laundering to get around cap restrictions. :smilebig:
     
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    Forgive my smartass comments. I meant it as a laugh. I am not a numbers guy so I appreciate the work that everyone does to keep up informed.
     
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    It's a pyramid scheme and the money trail leads straight to Tampa Bay & Atlanta.

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    I appreciate the sentiment, but I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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    :guinness: Well that's all I ever seem to do as numbers. Even music is all about numbers. Maybe I'm just more accustomed to it and it's already been a long week so today was a vacation day to post. Maybe another sticky on Capology 101 would help some understand the very separate and different accounting that goes on between what the checks are written for and how much of that counts against the cap and when.

    There's a lot more arcane stuff that goes on with rollovers of excess, credits for bonuses not earned, payment for those that were earned and all that stuff but it would be a little less of a headache if most simply understood how salary differs from a signing bonus or a roster bonus. If you guys want a sticky done I'll do it but not unless folks want it. I'm not trying to force the knowledge on anyone.
     
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