Sounds like BMarsh wants to finish his career a Bear, doesn't want max money

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  1. soulman

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    There's no reason yet not to believe it because he has said it before in much that same way although never quite this specifically. I take it more to mean he'd be happy with what he's making now if he remains productive and earns it not that he's working for half that. Still, you aren't wrong. We'll see what happens when the rubber meets the road. If they have cap space left to do it all or need more cap space I would think they'd want to get him done this year and then extend Jeffery next year but we'll see.
     
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    I just realized I mess this up lol
     
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    LOL, no worries.

    I've read stuff from "journalists" (who you'd think would bother to learn their stuff since it's ya know kinda part of their job as a sports reporter and all) that leaves me shaking my head. These guys are writing stuff to the public that belies their complete ignorance of how cash and cap accounting actually work. For example, it was recently reported that "after the Allen signing the Bears have $7.9m in cap space left and will need $5m of that for new draft picks".

    Really? Actually, that's not even close to correct in terms of cap space.

    Only the top 51 cap hits count against the cap until September or so.
    Most draft picks (past day the 3rd round at most) won't be in the top-51 in terms of their rookie year cap hits.
    Therefore they represent no new addition to the teams cap cost
    And those high draft picks that are in the top-51 by definition have to bounce someone else off the top-51.
    Therefore take their rookie year cap hit and subtract $500k or so to represent that player pushed off the cap roster.

    So it actually nets out to only $2.5m in new cap cost at most. The team still has millions of room left for a few depth signings + a reserve pool.
     
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    Oh oh, there's Lovie with that Steve Urkel look again. LOL
     
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    Man I sure am glad I'm not the only one around here who gets it when it comes to this stuff. It's not that hard to figure out but it takes more time and research than raw knowledge and some people just don't want to do the front end work including a whole shit load of sportswriters who actually get paid to write the crap they do. I read far better insights and analyses from posters here and we aren't paid.

    Your explanation of how the cap works and affects the draft picks is a great example. Almost all of those guys making NFL rookie minimums fall below the top 51 salaries. Now that salaries are slotted it's not very hard to figure out how much cap room you're gonna need for those deals that will count against the top 51 and that's a whole lot less than it used to be.

    Those deals only count the rookie minimum from the day of he draft until the day they're signed so all a team has to have is enough cap space to cover the number of picks they have times the rookie minimum. Only after they're signed does the actual cap cost count. The Bears usually sign their guys quickly but other teams may wait until after June 1st when they can free up more cap space for those deals.

    Without keeping a running spreadsheet on it like we did at one time the best we can do is to get a ball park number of what the cap space is. I believe the league publishes those figures once at the beginning of the league year but whatever source is reporting after that is guessing too. Some guess far better than others but they're still just close estimates. The only guys on the Bears who know exactly are Stein and Emery.
     

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