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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    I'm not trying to diss Buddy here, and I agree that Coaching is very important, and Buddy was a good coordinator (not a great head coach IMHO.....he lost as many games as he won - 55 wins, 55 losses).

    But in the end, player talent is the key factor. In the mid-80s our D was loaded & Buddy looked like a guru. But when Buddy went to a team with less talent on D than he had on the Bears, well, the Eagles D wasn't anything to write home about. Yet the Bears continued to be solid with Buddy gone.. By Buddy's second year at the Eagles, the defense had dropped to one of the worst in the entire NFL. He no longer had the bigtime talent.

    I'll always be glad we had Buddy here, and we owe him a lot for great defenses here. But it was the talent he had that made those teams special. Buddy was a fun character though for the fans, and we all will have great memories of those years.
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    I can argue both sides ot this JABF. I would say that the Eagles "dream team" was an example of talented players with lousy coaches that fell apart. I also think (I am in the minority here) that Peppers is not necessarily bad this year. I think it is more how he is being used as well as some other factors that I can't put my fingure on. Whatever malais has hit the rest of the D. And there are also countless stories of teams that did not have very many superstarts, yet were dominant because they played well as a team.

    I think coaching is every bit as important as players. I go back and forth which is more important. All I know is if you have both, you are in good shape!
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    I agree BIH. I'm not disagreeing with anyone here. I guess my main point was simply that the Bears team was obscenely loaded with talent (even multiple Hall of Fame level talent) in that era. They had a solid D coordinator in Buddy. But Buddy wasn't a "guru" that made something out of nothing (we know that only Mike Tice can coach at THAT level :D). Buddy inherited a gold mine of talent. He took that talent and built a solid defense.

    We could sure use some of Buddy Ryan's fire now.
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    yeah, I am sure on board with that. The most recent "attacking" D I think we have had was Rivera's. I'm not saying Marinelli's D was bad. It rated very high most years. I just like to watch an aggressive D. But I also love to watch defensive takeaways, and Marinelli/Lovie have done that more than any other team I can remember. Put them together and I would just never get off the couch watching that.
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    Yup Charles Martin. Just think he was suspended for ONLY TWO GAMES! Now he'd be banned for life.

    Thanks for the links. It sucks about McMahon getting hurt. If he had stayed healthy just think of what could have happened in Chicago.
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    Sorry for a way back post bump.... But I got this book for Christmas and read it while I workout and must say, A great read. Awesome insight and makes me wanna workout more...

    Thanks OP great book

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