The Bears should have cut Devin Hester a long time ago (interesting read)

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    This article is garbage. They are trying to attribute Hester's success to beginner's luck? Why not start talking about moxie and having that miraculous quality only known to fools with a poor grasp of football as "It".

    We had Dave Toub and Hester in his prime early. Most importantly, we still had the wedge block available to us. If the NFL had not become concussion concerned, Hester and Toub would have destroyed the record.

    Hester should go to KC and team back up with Toub for his last year.
     
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    remember he also threatened to retire when they fired the lovie.
     
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    Its been said many times that he could have fetched it, 670, espn, right after the superbowl I remember hearing there was a team willing to give it to us.
     
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    Ah this is all bullshit and you know it. This is about as weak as it gets. Devin Hester is one TD away from the all time record for TD returns, he has one in a SB that isn't counted, and probably close to a half dozen near TDs or ones called back by a penalty including one this past season that would have broken the record. He's also more than likely to be the ONLY player ever elected to the HOF based solely on that. It sure as hell isn't his career as a WR that'll do it. He may get penalized for that. In another year Weems will be an NFL afterthought.

    In two seasons with the Bears Weems has caught all of three passes for 35 yards. So that's his total offensive contribution. In two years he's returned exactly one punt for zero yards. He's also returned 18 kick offs for a grand total of 288 yards (avg. 16.0 yds per). Hell Hester had almost that many (249yds) in just one game this past year. In his entire career Weems has exactly 2 TDs on returns (1 PR/1KOR)......2! Hester has 18, 19 if you count the Super Bowl, and 20 if you count the FG return against the Giants. The two years that Weems did return kicks for over 1000 yds were in 2009 and 2010 (3 and 4 years ago) before they moved the spot up. This past year Hester had 1436 with the spot moved up.

    If were gonna look at topic of yardage we can compare that too. In his career Weems has 3999 and Hester has over 8700 yards, more than double and 19 regular season TD returns vs 2. Hester also has over 2500 more yards receiving and 12 more TDs as a WR than Weems has so that only creates even more of a difference between the two. And you want to compare Weems career to Hesters. Come on man. Not even close.

    For all intents and purposes Eric Weems is a STeams coverage guy only and not even the top guy on the team at that. I'll concede him a couple dozen tackles or so in the two years he's been here and that's about it. For this Emery is paying him $4.24 mil over three years!!!! Talk about guys who eat up cap space with little production this guy probably takes first place. Second might be Bush and he's safe so far too as far as we know but not a part of this debate. There probably isn't another guy on this team whose provided less ROI than Weems has and yet he's still here despite the fact that he's taking up enough cap space to sign a guy like D.J. Williams to play MLB which we need far more than the 10 of 12 STeams tackles Weems will get this year.

    Brother this Weems vs Hester thing shouldn't even be a topic for debate. It's like comparing Rex Grossman to Dan Marino and saying Grossman was better because he played in a Super Bowl and Marino never did. End of story. :cheers:
     
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    0% chance the Bears could have ever gotten 1 let alone 2 first round picks. Even after the SB year. He was a positionaless KR/PR. 2nd or 3rd at most.
     
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    Yeah, ya' HEAR a lot of things out of the media but that doesn't always make them true. It's real easy to SAY things but it's actually making the deal and sticking to it that counts and it never did so we'll never know.
     
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    I'd say this decision definitely had to do with scarcity of positions on a 53 man roster(you could get another guy just as effective((due to age, change in rules, money,and can effectively play special teams into a normal roster spot)) than anything else. Players say dumb things all the time, and still don't get cut, so it's not fair to say that is what happened without definitive proof. I hate this decision more than any other decisions to move on from Hester, but the decision effectively means that it was time to move on.

    To re-touch on the last topic, I think it's intellectually dishonest for Bears fans if they criticize moves like this as signs that "Emery is an (insert pejorative)" when, within one offseason, he acquired the two most talented WRs, and the following season gave us the best TE since Ditka and gave us the most cost-effective offensive line in the NFL.

    To be even more succinct: while it sucks emotionally, logically we can not criticize the move in such a way as to accuse Emery of displaying a pattern of mismanagement with the talent.
     
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    I'm not comparing anybodies career. All I'm stating is that Weems is perfectly capable of returning kicks, he demonstrated that by the fact he's returned kicks for over 1000 yards twice in his career, and his career averages, which you chose to leave out are VERY close to Hesters(24.3 per attempt for Weem, 24.8 for Hester on Kick offs, 10.4 for Weems, 12.3 for Hester on Punts). Obviously in the last couple of years Hester will have more yards than him....HE WAS OUR KICK RETURNER! THAT WAS HIS LONE JOB ON THIS TEAM.

    The point is Weems currently does more for this team than Hester does. Thats not up for debate. Yes, Hester is a dynamic return man, but thats it. If I'm going to pay a guy 1.5 mill I want him to do more than one thing. Having said that, he's probably next to get the axe. The point remains...paying a guy 1 million plus to ONLY DO 1 THING ON YOUR TEAM is ridiculous when you're team isn't a kick returner away from a Super Bowl.
     
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    I think a team like the 2007 Browns would have if they had already had a decent quarterback (they had two 1st round picks, but wasted the #22 on Brady Quinn), because they had one of the best offenses in the league that year.

    After that, no way in hell. I could still see a #2 in 2008 or 2009, but no way in hell was he going to fetch anything above a 3rd for the rest of his career.
     
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    Since it's probably water under the bridge now with Hester the next thing imo to keep an eye on is DeCamillis. Had his guy at punter with Pudless who crapped out. But now will probably have some material to develop some ST talent. I give him a longer leash than Mel but at least I can see a sign of life or two. Can't afford to get a primary ST guy in the draft so I hope we get a guy in FA.
     

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