The GM of the Future (Emery) - Bill Barnwell

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    The only move he has made so far, that has paid dividends has been the addition of Marshall. What JJ30 doesn't get is that its beyond silly for any writer to be lauding Emery when he hasn't accomplished anything yet. In fact, most of his moves so far and his draft class from last season, are duds. How could someone be so obtuse and write an article suggesting that Emery's philosophy is some how proven when last year's 10-6 team had virtually no contributions from any of his players, with the exception of Marshall? An article like that should be written 3-4 years from now, if Emery's personnel moves, have in fact paid off. So far, only Marshall has paid off. And that first draft class looks awful. But you know how it goes...some people don't like looking at the facts. That 10-6 team from last year was an Angelo team, not a Emery team. This year its going to be more of an Emery team.
     
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    LOL@ this post. You attack Angelo and post as if last year's 10-6 team had its success due to Emery's players. Marshall is the only addition from Emery last season who made any kind of an impact. All the other guys are Angelo picks and acquisitions. You live in candy land buddy. Emery hasn't proven one thing yet. In fact, the addition of Trestman is either a brilliant move or its one that's going to set this franchise back years...and get us embarrassed for years in head to head competition with the Packers...
     
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    1st: (Shea) Looks thus far to have been a reach pick or ill-suited to our D scheme. DeCastro or CJones would have been better choices. You expect your first rounder to be more of a three-down player and less of a "specialist".
    2nd: (Jeffery) Has star potential talent-wise and a great work ethic. Excellent pick.
    3rd: (Hardin) Long on athleticism but short on experience. Missed two straight years so needs to get his act together and show something for the future this year to justify his draft status.
    4th: (Rodriquez) Failure, wasted pick.
    5th: traded for Jeffery
    6th: (Frey) PS last year but making a strong push to make the team now as a backup CB. Decent pick.
    7th: (McCoy) Can't expect much here but McCoy turned out to be nothing.

    A below average draft overall thus far IMO. When you throw in the fact the Emery found two udfa immediately afterward who look really promising and should make the team this year (Anderson and Brown), ill give it a C-.

    What Emery has done is recognize and attempt to rectify that which JA/Lovie were either clueless or inept at. I mentioned the specific issues earlier and whether or not you think his moves have been the best, Emery is light years ahead of his predecessor in vision. It's too early to determine "results" yet, but the effort is there. I don't miss the previous regime one bit.

    And the "Angelo team" from last year got to 10 wins because of a defense that had tremendous success taking the ball away & scoring and by beating mostly crap teams in the first half. When we needed just one additional score against a good team (Seattle, Houston) to get a home win, we couldn't get it to save our lives and lost two very winnable games. We needed a new philosophy for sure.
     
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    Yea but that whole defense is also an Angelo built defense. That wasn't an Emery built defense my friend. I'm not going to go south on Jeffery because I think he's a big time SEC talent. But c'mon...look at the rest of that draft class...unproductive and uninspiring. That can't be argued. Personally, the McClellan pick was embarrassing. We had so many better options available at #1.

    I'm not pessimistic about this year's class because I think he got some serious talent this time around. nd I think Greene will be a stud like Bostic. Big time player potential on those 2 guys.

    Also, how could anyone say Angelo was clueless? I mean he got that Cutler joke that everyone is in love with right? Got Forte. Got Garza, Webb, Bennett, Bush, Wooton, Peppers, Paea, Briggs, Tillman, Conte, Jennings, Wright, Gould & I think I'm missing a few others. So let's not throw Angelo under the bus. I still have not seen one draft pick from Emery become a cornerstone piece of our franchise...
     
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    JA couldn't draft offensive talent for shit. Forte was the only one who's a true standout. In what 10 years? He couldn't sign it either. He pulled off the Cutler trade and then went to sleep like the guy didn't need any receiving weapons or OL to be successful. We had ONE top15 offense I think in the last decade...one.

    Remember Omiyale? Chester Taylor? Brandon Manuleuma? Roy Williams? Chris Williams? Wolfe? Carimi?

    The whole prior regime--JA, Lovie & his traveling show of useless OCs/positional coaches who couldn't develop a roll of film--absolutely sucked on the offensive side of the ball. And guess what...it isn't the 1980s anymore. You need an offense with a healthy passing game to win consistently in the modern NFL.

    Emery may have misfired on the Shea pick (who knows how much influence Lovie had on that) but he's got a long way to go to be in the same ballpark as JA's ineptitude.
     
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    Yet he built that defense you laud so much. He brought in the QB that most Bears fans nutswing from. Emery so far has not shown himself to bring any cornerstone pieces through his drafts. Which is why people need to take Emery's balls out of their mouths.
     
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    Webb waxes inconsistently between serviceability and suckitude, Bennett is merely decent (frequently hurt), Garza is journeyman quality, and Bush was signed by Emery after a string of backup power-RB failures by JA. The only true O success JA had was drafting Forte and stealing Cutler in trade from Denver McDummy.

    We have seen what the reasonable ceiling is of "D only" teams and its about 8-10 wins with no playoff appearance.
     
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    And I'm not crowning Emery at all. Way too soon to know one way or the other. But I will give him an A for effort (on offense especially) and overall an "incomplete with arrow pointing upward".

    JA is still trying to figure out what a left tackle is and how Devin Hester can be made into a "#1 WR".
     
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    Like I said...where are all these great players that Emery has brought in to take the place of all these 'crap' players that Angelo flooded the team with?

    Trust me when I said this...by season's end...we will know if Emery is a dope or someone who actually knows how to unearth talent.

    The Bears fanbase is not going to put up with this...'it takes time' bullshit. Emery has been sold to the fans as a guy that actually knows how to discover talent and bridge the gap between the Bears & Packers. Bears fans are not going to buy this nonsense if they lose to the Packers twice and to all the good teams on the schedule. He may have gotten a nice 5yr deal, but we will call for his head if things aren't drastically changed in our favor by year 3. And his drafts better start producing players...
     
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    Angelo couldn't draft for shit in general.

    Regarding McClellan I still think that was a Lovie move because remember he and Tice told Emery the O-Line was fine and Phil trusted them.
     
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