The Official Draft Day Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by The Benjamin, May 8, 2014.

  1. BearJim

    BearJim Veteran SuperFan DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2012
    Messages:
    494
    Likes Received:
    134
    Ratings:
    +146 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    15ß
    Yeah, that's a big if Ric. I think what happened is either his agent told him he needed to bulk up if he wanted to get drafted or his coaches told him they wanted him to get bigger. I don't know that for sure but I'm sure he will be asked that at Halas Hall in the next few days.
  2. riczaj01

    riczaj01 DaBears Ditka DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2006
    Messages:
    21,121
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    Ratings:
    +2,713 / 8 / -8
    ßearz ßuckz:
    697ß
    670's scout said that he was told to bulk up by someone, and he didn't do it correctly. So hopefully HH can get his weight correct
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Chicago_66

    Chicago_66 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2013
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    325
    Ratings:
    +352 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    37ß
    Any possibility we trade back into the third or we all set for now?
  4. Chicago_66

    Chicago_66 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2013
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    325
    Ratings:
    +352 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    37ß
    Biggest surprise for me so far is that I've yet to be surprised. Fuller, Ego, and Sutton are all players we've heard at one time or another being linked to us.
    • Like Like x 3
  5. Bearsinhouston

    Bearsinhouston Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,658
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    Ratings:
    +1,349 / 3 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    454ß
    Sounds like you ARE surprised!
  6. Chicago_66

    Chicago_66 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2013
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    325
    Ratings:
    +352 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    37ß
    Emery is the ultimate ninja. Right when you think you know how he works, picking players you hadn't even considered, he goes and drafts the people we've been clamoring for in one way or another.
    • Like Like x 1
  7. jackiejokeman

    jackiejokeman Pro-Bowler

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    147
    Ratings:
    +185 / 2 / -1
    ßearz ßuckz:
    294ß
    As stated ... outguessing Emery is senseless.
  8. DavidL

    DavidL Pro-Bowler SuperFan

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,072
    Likes Received:
    562
    Ratings:
    +649 / 5 / -22
    ßearz ßuckz:
    633ß
    I see that three safeties were drafted in the second and third rounds, and they all run about 4.4 in the 40. The Bears drafted two defensive tackles that most people on this board never heard of, judging from all the draft postings here.
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  9. Chicago_66

    Chicago_66 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2013
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    325
    Ratings:
    +352 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    37ß
    Not really sure where you get that from, I've seen plenty of mocks from members here where we picked these guys.
    • Like Like x 3
  10. riczaj01

    riczaj01 DaBears Ditka DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2006
    Messages:
    21,121
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    Ratings:
    +2,713 / 8 / -8
    ßearz ßuckz:
    697ß
    I'd heard of both of them, both are solid, if not raw picks. But none of the S's were worth drafting at 51 or at all in the 3rd
    • Like Like x 2
  11. Chicago_66

    Chicago_66 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2013
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    325
    Ratings:
    +352 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    37ß
    I don't think it's too big of an if, apparently he's sitting at 290/295 right now.
    • Like Like x 1
  12. riczaj01

    riczaj01 DaBears Ditka DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2006
    Messages:
    21,121
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    Ratings:
    +2,713 / 8 / -8
    ßearz ßuckz:
    697ß
    ya sounds like Sutton was well aware that whoever drafted him was going to want him in the 290 range, he said he could add or drop another 1o or so also.
  13. DavidL

    DavidL Pro-Bowler SuperFan

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,072
    Likes Received:
    562
    Ratings:
    +649 / 5 / -22
    ßearz ßuckz:
    633ß
    So, now we have Ratliff, Collins, Izzy, Ferguson, Sutton, and Paea. Is that enough, or do we need to draft more tackles before we get a safety?

    I checked out Southward. He runs 4.35 in the 40 and has a 42-inch vertical jump. That would have been real nice going up with Megatron for the ball.
  14. riczaj01

    riczaj01 DaBears Ditka DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2006
    Messages:
    21,121
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    Ratings:
    +2,713 / 8 / -8
    ßearz ßuckz:
    697ß
    We aren't drafting a S David, at least we shouldn't. the S class was decimated in the first, the rest just aren't that good. Better to get another CB and hope he can transition.
    • Like Like x 1
  15. soulman

    soulman Pro-Bowler SuperFan DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    4,496
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Ratings:
    +1,745 / 3 / -2
    ßearz ßuckz:
    1,329ß
    Let's just say I'm underwhelmed but more because of how things worked out than because of mistakes. Once Donald was gone Fuller made perfect sense especially if they had him ranked above the Safeties who were not all that special. I think the draft proved that.

    Sutton isn't up to Donald's standards but he plays a similar style game and can handle that penetrating, disrupting 3 tech DT spot. He's a playmaker who'll be effective in the rotation of they can keep his weight in check. If not Donald then Sutton was the best second option or possibly Reid but he doesn't have Sutton's pedigree.

    The pick I don't see at all is Ferguson. I think we screwed up there because there were better players available at other positions but we reached based on need. Maybe they can coach him up to be a decent player but right now all he looks like to me is a major project NT with no pass rushing ability at all. The kid is a Mel Tucker type and I'm not impressed with his DLines at Jax.
    Last edited: May 10, 2014
  16. latorreedgar

    latorreedgar Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2014
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    22
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    Well the Bears can look at Keith McGill. He played Safety in college
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Bearsinhouston

    Bearsinhouston Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,658
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    Ratings:
    +1,349 / 3 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    454ß
    I think there is a possibility that we take a second CB that we either use as a 3rd CB when Tillman leaves or more probably try to move to S, or we go LB, TE, RB, WR

    That's 5 possibilities and we still have 4 picks. Plus we always get 3-5 UDFA afterwards. I think we are in pretty good shape.
    • Like Like x 1
  18. DavidL

    DavidL Pro-Bowler SuperFan

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,072
    Likes Received:
    562
    Ratings:
    +649 / 5 / -22
    ßearz ßuckz:
    633ß
    Then we should have drafted Clinton-Dix instead of Fuller. I am really disappointed in this draft.
  19. Bearsinhouston

    Bearsinhouston Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,658
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    Ratings:
    +1,349 / 3 / -0
    ßearz ßuckz:
    454ß
    yeah, I myself was disappointed Donald was taken right before us, but in actuality we don't know if Emery would have gone Fuller anyway. We know he liked him and we know he wanted a CB. What we don't know is who he had ahead of who there. STL made a good grab there. Can't fault them. I am thinking that we would have gone with Donald since 2 DT's were taken -- that tells me that Emery viewed it as a pretty big need. Not sure who we would have gotten at CB though in the second. I do like Fuller. What I do like is that both Ferguson and Sutton COULD be studs. I did not want someone that COULD be a stud, but that's just the way it is. I am going to look at it as best as possible right now. It is very possible we got three really good players right now. We'll see.
    • Like Like x 1
  20. riczaj01

    riczaj01 DaBears Ditka DBS Writer

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2006
    Messages:
    21,121
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    Ratings:
    +2,713 / 8 / -8
    ßearz ßuckz:
    697ß
    no reason to be disappointed in a whole draft b/c 1 position doesn't get filled. There is still UDFA and the 2nd round of free agency after teams cut down. there will be capable S's to pick up(hopefully). Meanwhile the team got a starting NB, who can play S, and will be the starting CB after Tillman retires/gest hurt and the DT/NT long term solution is solidified.
    • Like Like x 2

Share This Page