The Official Flogging Chris Conte Thread.............

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  1. BSBEARS

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    It is very clear from the Hawk audio cover that the producer is a baseball guy and doesn't know a damn thing about football. You want to tell what a DB is thinking? Look at his hips. Watch from the 2nd angle Conte's first 3 steps and how his hips are angled and then look at Bowmans. Bowman is open to the middle of the field. His first 3 steps are backwards. Conte has closed hips to move laterally and jumped all over that 3 yard stick. Weather he had the right or wrong call he didn't "blow" that coverage. He thought (correctly or incorrectly we just don't know) he was in a shallow wing 1. This pretty much confirms what we inferred from the presser and the phantom Anderson audible. Conte was clearly not playing man and judging by the way Major came flying in and slammed that drag route neither was he. Now I don't know what exactly was the call, none of us do. Briggs said they were in a zone in the presser after the game and Tucker said they were in man. Peppers is the one who looks absolutely terrible on that play and the rest of the jailbreak sucked too.

    Ok off topic but freeze the tape at 0:07 seconds. Look at Shea and look at Peppers. If Pep dosent take the lazy way out and stuffs that desperate diving attempt at a cut block he is 2 steps from a sack and is going to force a flat footed throw. If Pep dosen't take the selfish way out and at do that jumping lunging thing that he did (Look at Shea, he is in proper position for a blitz sending 4 inside) then he can feed Rodgers into the other 5 rushers. Count the rushers and count the blockers. 6 on 6, and Rodgers had about 7 seconds before he threw that ball. That in itself is absolutely terrible (for god's sake, GBs line sucks). Bottom line of this entire post. If your trying to blame it on one person, you are either lying to yourself to justify the loss or you can be labeled as a meathead fan (not saying anyone on here, more or less the water cooler morons)

    thanks BS for the vid. Shows some good angles.
     
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    I agree. To be honest, I'm not as upset with the defense in that game as I am with the overall poor performance of the defense over the course of most of the entire season. Same with Conte. By that last game, our defense was like a wounded animal. If it were a horse they would have euthanized it by that point. Peppers, Shea, Conte & the rest of the crew had a rough year. I'm over it now.

    We now have some new players (and more coming in the draft) so I'm just looking forward to seeing how this defense performs moving forward in the new season. Everybody remaining on the roster has a "clean slate" and fresh start in my mind. I don't understand why folks are fixated on one play from Conte. He under-performed all season long IMHO & looked like a lost puppy out there on many plays spanning the entire season. Surely we can do better at safety this year, even if it's still Conte out there - but a better performing Conte.
     
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    Yep, the past is done. Learn from it and move on. I feel the same way with Tucker, Conte, Shea all of em. Start fresh with TC battles and go from there not much more can be done.
     
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    And I do have confidence in Emery and Trestman to get the defense fixed. I'll trust Emery and Trestman until they prove they do not deserve the trust. Trestman has only been here 1 season. I do believe he'll get it right on defense and we will be surprised by how good the D will be. We all talk about Trestman being offense-minded, and he does seem gifted there. But that doesn't mean the guy is stupid about defense. I'm looking forward to the coming season, and seeing a pretty good D out there to go with our great offense.
     
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    Now look at that video clip that you posted and you'll see exactly what I mean. Conte is at the line not playing deep cover. As they drop into coverage Conte backpedals a few steps then heads directly for the receiver who runs the short out to the sideline because he doesn't have the speed to match the slot deep. He and Bowman were supposed to switch off coverage which left Bowman with the slot. Bowman picked up the call which was an all out rush with man coverage and Conte didn't.

    With Cobb in the slot against Conte that's a mismatch right there and either that switch to man coverage should have never been made or Tucker call time and puts Bowman on Cobb where he has speed to match him and a 3"-4" height advantage. Pep beat his man at the line then allow him self to get chipped by a cut block an loses contain. I doubt the Pep of two years ago would have missed that sack and the contain. So the defensive play call set them up for a mismatch and a great QB saw it an took advantage but before he could even do that he had to avoid Pep's rush and as he does frequently against us he did. Pep has help to the inside so he never should have lost contain.

    My point BSB is this play was just one more example of fuck ups in coverage that were happening all season long. Either Tucker couldn't scheme it right or teach his scheme correctly because it was happening every game, not just this one. Conte made some bad plays, that's true, but after seeing what happened confirmed by what Trestman said about was this one of them? Allowing that mismatch wasn't Conte deal. It was either Anderson's for not realizing what that call could do or Tuckers if he waggled it in as an audible. The bottom line is that as usual there's more than one guilty party. One person not doing their job correctly can make a whole lot of people look bad and that can happen when you play a lot of inexperienced people.

    As for Hawk, he's baseball guy and an over emotional cripple at time too. I probably know twice as much about Bears football as he does. Let him call Sox games and he's in his element but football, nah. I just wonder that if he knew what the call was that created that if he'd even know enough to retract what he said. Hawk's call influence a lot of people into the Conte hatred and half of them haven't even bothered to look at that replay to see that it confirms exactly what both Conte and Trestman explained about it. It was a major league fuck up but it was not all Conte's fault.

    Can you see that now?
     
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    i agree that Conte should not be crucified on the basis of this game. However, there is strong consideration based on his body of work for the year.
     
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    Question...
    Is that Mel with the dog?
     
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    Speaking of a S draft pick, I'd love to see Deon Buchannon (sp?) in a Bears uni. He's been a productive starter for 3 years, is 6'1" 210, ran a 4.49, and should be around in the mid-2nd. Mundy and him would be our starters with CC relegated to the bench (you all can throw overripe tomatoes at him then lol).

    Donald--Buchannon would make me very very very happy in 1-2.
     
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    my whole point is its not a single occurrence. Yes the video reveals it was blown coverage but somebody needs to make a frickin play. Tucker, CB's, Safeties, etc, they have meetings, to prevent this crap from happening. Not just the Packer game but some of the other ones I posted show a trend. Trends like this our BAD things. To put it simply why are we not debating either Peanuts ability to cover players. Because we know he can get the job done and do it well. The mere need for this conversation shows at the least the need for growth and competition. I posted other articles as well prior to GB game and missed opportunities. I would love to see Conte prove me wrong but everything I have seen says otherwise . I may not be a pro scout but I know a weak link when I see it. Even Major Wright was generally ranked higher than Conte, go to NFL stats and pull it up. Nobody wants Wright, NOR do I , so why would you want Conte? What has he done but miss tackles and blow coverage. I mean even a blind man can find the dinner table, Conte gets a interception here and there but I see it more like the blind man, its not his unsurpassed skill, its more the law of averages over time. I can make a science project if you all like but its more than the packer game. He makes as many bonehead plays which offset the good. Gives up a TD and comes back with a INT. Just get the INT and I will be happy and quit giving up the TD.
     

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