The OFFICIAL Jags game reaction thread

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  1. BradMustersGhost

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    Just figured that since the game was over, we should have an official postgame impressions/takeaways threads. I'll start: defense still looks crappy. We made Henne and Bortles both look like All-Pro QBs out there. :(
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    Too many penalties, too sloppy on special teams (need Williams healthy to see if he is the returner or not), nervous about the defense (haven't game planned or played full strength yet, so I'm not hitting the panic button just yet, but the my hand is hovering), need to get the running have going and the passing game looks to be elite...it's time to crown Patty as the punter and CornWash flashed at DE and on special teams...2-0 preseason or not, I love a Bears victory
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    I guess I put my intitial reaction in the wrong thread. I used the game thread. Oh well...
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    CornWash stepped up tonight, and Bass was a complete no-show, as was Lane. So it's looking a bit better for my adopted Bear.

    Forte was -2 yards on 4 carries. The run blocking for him was pathetic. These guys were great on pass protection, though.

    The first-team defense was pretty bad in the first quarter. It was only in the 4th quarter that the Bears looked good on D.
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    Positives:
    - No need to panic yet on offense. Decent depth in WR's making catches. back up RB's gaining yards. Clausen looking like a decent number 2 and Palmer not bad either. Back up line seemed to protect and run pretty well. Starting line needs to work on the running game and I think Forte is just coasting at the moment.
    - No big plays allowed by the safeties as such in terms of breaking down
    - Run defense solid
    - More tape to analyse Bostic and McLellin has to be a positive I guess
    - Patty the punter with some decent punts
    - Punt coverage at least looked ok
    - Tackling seemed at least reliable in most spots (safety, corners, some of the linebackers)

    Negatives
    - Return game = 0
    - Kick off coverage still ordinary (McMannis seems to deliver all the good tackles)
    - D-Line got a bit of pressure on but couldn't close the deal
    - Stupid line penalties (and repeated contact to the face penalties)
    - Big questions remain with the linebackers/safeties in terms of coverage
    - Injuries!!!!

    Still thinking we are building a pretty good offense. The challenge for the 3rd preseason game is to see if we can get a running game because you can't beat Seattle just on Cutler I don't think. You need that well rounded offense. And then I think we are building a defense that if they stay healthy wont be horrible. Middle of the road. Some turnovers. Some sacks and pressures. Doesn't leak huge running yards like last year but at the same time is susceptible to patient QB's taking what they can get with short and intermediate passes.

    We might have a 10-12 win offense mixed with a 7-8 win defense. And the difference between those two spots could very well be how reliable our special teams are.
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    uh-oh.... isn't that like hoping an anchor will help you float in the water?
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    Call me crazy, but I was content with our #1 D. Yes they gave up 13 points. With a competent return man it would have been 6pts. If they can keep teams to field goals, I will be happy bc we know our Bears can score TDs. Weems needs to be replaced as a return man. Hayden was picked on, need Fuller back healthy.

    Its been mentioned before, OLine look amazing in pass protection and horrible in run blocking (early on). The backup QB derby is still tight. Morgan looks like the top #3 WR. The depth at RB looks good.
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    ^^^No problem Bearsinhouston. I just wanted to give everyone a separate "postgame reaction thread" since I didn't want the in-game thread to grow to an unwieldy length. I have taken the liberty of copying and pasting your postgame reaction (contained in the in-game thread) below for everyone to read. I hope you don't mind. Anyway, here is Bearsinhouston's postgame impressions/thoughts:

    Strange game in that I did not expect it to be as close as it was against the Jaguars. I was hoping for some run blocking improvement but I did not see it, and did not see too fierce of a first team pass rush. The D did seem to get better after a while but did not sustain that level. They were not bad by any means, but got gashed early on the run more than they should have IMO.

    Same on offense. Cutler moved the ball down the field and scored. I can't complain about the play, but I had somehow set my expectations for the second game to where it would start to flash more of the dominat O we saw last year and I did not see it.

    I don't understand what Weems does for us that we don't have others that can do the same or better.

    As far as positives, Morgan showed up for the game. I did not know he was as good as he seems to be. Washing certainly was not dominant, but he showed up on more than one play. Not sure if he will stick or not, but he helped himself tonight. Both QBs competing for #2 looked good. Clausen did not look as much better than Jordan in this game as he did last game. Fales did not play, so I'm not sure if that means they may keep BOTH Jordan and Palmer over Fales or whether they just wanted as mugh time to make the best decision they could between Jordan and Palmer.

    ST started out shakey and did improve a little but IMO very much still subpar.

    Next week against Seattle is going to show how we compare against the best. Could be ugly...

    Bottom line is we let them get ahead and stay ahead for most of the game, but in the end we won the game. The ability to come from behind is huge, so I'm glad to see that.

    What does everyone else think? I may be coming off more negative than I am feeling. I am not disappointed, just not as pumped as I had hoped if that makes any sense. Still only second preseason though.
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    The runblocking was abysmal.
    The passblocking was outstanding.
    Shea McClellin looked better this game but there's still a long way to go.
    Offhand I would say I expected more from Will Sutton.
    Cut Weems
    Cutty looked good
    First Dline was able to put some good pressure on the Jags.
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    I took a lot of notes so where should I start? Oh, I know.

    Take Weems out to O'Hare and buy him a ticket to whichever team is farthest away from Chicago. Offer to pay his salary if they have to. The guy fucking sucks in very way imaginable. He's a lousy KOR with no speed and no moves. All he does is take the kick and run into walls where he goes down with minimal contact. The fumble was just frosting on the cake.

    I'll just repeat what Brad Biggs said earlier in the week. They already know exactly what they have in him and it's not much more than zero. He had one good year 4 seasons ago as a return specialist and he's done jack shit ever since. He was a bad buy when we signed him and he hasn't improved. As a receiver he's only slightly less worthless than he is as a KOR or PR where he's an expert at the fair catch and nothing else.

    If CWill is gonna miss a significant amount of time with that "hammy" strain then I would start culling the available FAs and in another ten days or so the waiver wire looking for some guys who are decent returners because we have zero. The fumblitis must have been catching tonight because Ford dropped a kick and we muffed another punt but luckily it went OB. Basically our return game is pathetic.

    There, that's a start.
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    Offense looks good but defense and ST still suck. It wasn't Clausen's night but he's still the guy I want behind Cutty. I agree with Zif, McClellin was better but still has a lot of work to do.

    I don't want to see Weems, Spurlock and Edwards on the final roster. Too many penalties, Kelvin Hayden's holding was just stupid.

    Trevor Scott looks like he was a steal in FA - if he can stay healthy.

    O'Donnell is our punter.
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    Now if Bostic can only continue to do that during the season...
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    Yeah, that was a great play Jimmors unfortunately it was his only great play. McClellin made a nice stop early on too but then both spent the rest of the game playing on their heels again.

    This is what I mean by playing downhill and attacking. Both Bostic and McClellin can do this so why is it they aren't doing it most every play? Maybe Tucker is playing it cool so far so as not to show much but once again this defense lacks aggressiveness and precision.

    If this crap continues after the season starts we need to dump Tucker. His scheme isn't what we need here with the players we have. The D played lazy tonight. Maybe they weren't up for this game or maybe they just don't know the scheme or it's bad scheme but this still isn't a Chicago Bears defense I'm seeing.
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    My impressions:

    D started slow but really picked up in the 2nd and 3rd drives; Hayden kinda muffed the one TD allhis own. The pressure is there and that's a bonus
    DB's not named Tillman/Jennings, McCray and McMannis didn't show up when I was watching. Henne was playing catch w/an open field w/his TE's and WR's.
    As many people complained about the flags, hands there were 5 hands to the face in the 1st half, that's an easy call and needs to be stopped.
    Shea/Bostic apparently can blitz(from previous years) and do a little run stop, but neither know how to cover on passing downs gotta be able to do both.
    Fuller and Miller got hurt, but I'm guessing they could have come back if needed, didn't sound like anything serious.
    1st team OL run blocking is awful, more often then not Forte was getting hit behind the OL: I'm not worried b/c I don't think Cutler is calling audibles; you see things go a little more smooth when Clausen got in there and called an audible into the correct play.
    Draughan actually looked pretty solid, as did Carey and Perry....why not let Perry work on KR/PR? Couldn't be worse then Weems.
    Ford is on the outsie looking in.
    I really am liking this McCray kid at S, seemed like he had a good ST hit, and some good plays on D also.
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    I am not crowing either of these LBs as "Better" yet. Bostic might have looked better last preseason, He blew up two plays last night but what he needs to do learn to fill gas and tackle on normal plays. He always seems to pick the wrong gap and over run. They blamed a pass coverage play on Shea last night but The QB had a lot of the to make that throw happen and it seems to me that most LBs are a mismatch in coverage (yhea we we spoiled by Urlacher).

    For the most part the first team players on both side looked unmotivated and did not seem to want to be out there, But who blames them. Weems looked just bad, couldn't catch, did nothing on ST, and got chewed out by Jay for not running back towards him when the play broke down, seems like someone with as much time in the NFL as Weems should know that. Oline gave Cutler all day, I love seeing that you know if he has time he is gonna make a huge play.
    That dude we got from Redskins Morgan looked great. Him and Williams keepers, at this point i don't think anyone is asking for Weems to hang around.
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    Perry played ST at Louisville, including KR I believe. I'd be all for him getting a shot.
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    Or maybe it's the second pre-season game and it wasn't game planned for?
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    Wait they don't gameplan for PS?!?!?!?! I'm stunned, flabbergasted even.
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    In the interest of veteran respect, the Bears need to let Weems go as soon as possible to give him the best chance of latching on with another team. Preferably one in our division.
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    oh shoot... you didn't have to do that. Hell, everyone was probably happy they didn't have to read it. Now you ruined it for them! LOL
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