Think We All Need a Laugh; Jerry Angelo on Drafting, LOL...........

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  1. Henry Burris

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    To be fair, Haynes was supposed to be a fit for Jauron's D, and was absolutely not for Lovie's. Also, it was Lovie's first OC that insisted on bringing in Quinn, because he was a backup at KC and "knew the system". Hutchinson was the only bright spot at QB in 2004, and was promptly gotten rid of after a poor outing in the 2005 preseason.
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    Funny, funny stuff.
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    ugh Chutch....a friend of mine had a picture of his nephew in a Chutch Jersey...even back then I hated him.
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    Ok, so I haven't really watched Robinson play ball because time is limited and I've mainly concerned myself with possibilities for the Bears... but a lot of what I've read about Robinson is that he's very RAW and his pass pro technique needs to be coached up. How does that make him the SAFEST player in the whole draft class? Or is all of that I've read on him inaccurate and he's as sure fire as Orlando Pace was, coming into the league?
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    B/R is fairly critical, but says he's one of the best 2 OT's in the draft and calls him a plug and play OT.
    Walter has him as the top OT in the draft.

    So w/my limited looking around I'd say he's probably looked at as pretty damn safe.
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    As what though Henry. He couldn't play DE or DT.
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    It's JA talking. What else is there to say. This is the guy who drooled over a kid who could jump out of swimming pools but never learned how to play football and spent a third round pick on a WR whose now playing for the who? The Helsinki Wolverines?????? Do they play night games up there in the Midnight Sun League?

    Manziel a top five pick? The guy has the potential to be the biggest coach and GM killing QB to be drafted since Ryan Leaf. 80% of the teams picking are frightened to death of him. He's far more a novelty pick for a bottom feeder who needs to put butts in seats like Jax than he is for any team seriously thinking of contending.
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    Yeah, I guess there's differing opinions. I've read, using Jerry speak, that his floor is lower than other top OTs in pass pro, but his ceiling there and ceiling overall is sky high, and that's why he's rated so high. When there's technique issues to coach up, I wouldn't say it's safe... again, I've seen little to nothing with my own eyes to give an honest assessment.
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    Back in the day, there was this article regarding a player's desire and interest in playing football. They cited three examples but did not list them by name, but with a little digging it was easy to figure out who they were talking about. One player during his interviews would not shut up about playing piano. They would try to steer the conversation towards football, and he'd get it back to playing piano. That player as far as we could figure out? Joey Harrington.

    Next on the list was a guy that was so interested in zoology that he would not shut up about animals during his interview. As far as we could figure, it was Michael Haynes. He just did not have the focus to succeed in the NFL because he did not actually like playing the game. And of course Lovie moved him around and asked him to change his weight probably didn't help.

    Last guy was Kwame Harris, but I can't remember what his deal was. Maybe it was something about him accidentally admitting that he was gay in his interview, but my memory is hazy. I didn't care about what his deal was. Joey Ballgame and Haynes lack of interest in their interview were what stuck in my memory.
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    I guess imo I would rather take a guy that needs some tech improvement IF I think my coaches are capable(and I would hope they were) but has a huge ceiling(not just ahtletic/pool jumper) then a guy w/a lower ceiling that is already completely finished, guess it also depends on what the team needs, sometimes I could see how the team might need a guy that can just start and be ready to go day 1.
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    Oh I'm with you there. I think if you have the opportunity to get a guy with rare talent and feel he's coachable, you pull the trigger. That's why if I'm the Texans, I take Clowney without thinking twice. If you're at the top of the draft, you should take your shots at those types of guys, IMO. Sometimes you fall on your face, but so be it. I was just wondering why JA felt he was the safest pick in the draft, when everything I've read is saying he needs a lot of technique work and that he rarely played with his hand down in college. That's not my idea of safe.. that's all.
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    Well I guess that's b/c JA is a moron, I would see why he thinks he's the safest OT or OL maybe other then SW the safest O player, but take into consideration the D players, no way.
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    still don't think Jerry was the worst at drafting but round 1 - 2 was not good was down right ugly and depressing list. I don;t know his method or his madness to after reading this article i still think he just threw darts at a board Jerry was better at later round pick then he was first 2 rounds.
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    That 2007 draft was the one that killed me. He was cocky as hell with that one, just coming off the Super Bowl appearance. We trade Thomas Jones (which I was fine with, Jones was over-rated IMO) and our 2nd rounder for the 37th overall pick. We trade that 37th with the Chargers, who grab Eric Weddle (and I believe FS was one of our needs). We get Dan Bazuin and Garret Wolfe with the 2nd and 3rd rounders acquired from that trade (I think we got some 5th rounder and a 3rd the next year). The acquisition of the picks was actually a good move, it was the trade down to grab reaches at positions that weren't immediate needs, like Bazuin and Wolfe that sucked when there were areas on the roster that needed to be addressed in order to remain relevant.
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    "Safe picks" don't have a low floor and you have plenty of tape on them playing the position you expect them to play for your team. The "tweeners" and conversion picks often fail as much or more then they succeed. We're dangerously close to that with McClellin. I'm beginning to wonder if in the NFL he's man without a position. A guy you need to keep moving around when you can afford to just turn him loose to do his thing. I guess we'll find out soon enough if he's a LB.

    When I look at that in this draft I see two top players who are fits for the positions we would have them play. Dix as a FS and Donald as a 3 tech DT. Then I see Pryor more as a SS and Jernigan more as a Shade NT. Not that these two can't play FS and DT but most everything about them tells me that's not there best spot. That makes me wonder if we should pass on both and look elsewhere for better fits.
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    What's your point? Angelo couldn't general manage either!
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    I hear he invested in a thoroughbred stable but kept buying geldings for breeding stock then traded that for 12 Blockbuster Video franchises. After he lost his shirt on those two with what he had left he opened up the first HoneyBaked Ham store in Tel Aviv. Some guys just never get it do they?
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    He must use the same investment advisor as me.
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