Thoughts and news on the defense

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    Maybe Okoye can make a comeback like Jacobs did for the Giants
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    We would have Mario but wouldn't have the money for Bushrod, the unicorn,Slaussen,etc. Mario hasn't exacfly lit them up over in Buffalo either.
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    I agree. I was just saying, reports were that he was in the "reasonable" range until Buffalo threw all their money at him. There's also no way anyone could live up to his contract, so I don't feel too bad for Buffalo.
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    Sox, he might not have scared them, but w/Bostic they will actually be actively looking for shots over the middle and seems.
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    CornWash has been on the inactive list for last two weeks. I have been searching everywhere to learn why. As far as I know, he is not injured or being disciplined, So do the Bears coaches think he could play any worse than McClellin? Really? CornWash is bigger, faster, and much stronger than McClellin. Teams are going to study that Giants game with Jacobs running by McClellin for 105 yards. Are they just too proud to admit they made a draft mistake and move on? I hear this "next man up" bullshit from them. CornWash is next man up,and they have him on the inactive list while McClellin continues to languish.
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    Can't say that I disagree. Shea got creamed over and over yesterday, including by the TE. He's not the only culprit but its no secret that teams are running at the right side for big gains and that Dwyer/Jacobs had "comeback" games against us. Shea needs to be on the bench for all but obvious passing downs. Bass has looked better than Shea on far fewer opportunities.
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    If this issue is not addressed before the Packers game, I will vote the deflated football to Tucker.
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    I like Shea's hustle on the field. He is everywhere, but the offensive line man handles him at DE. He needs another postion.
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    Unfortunately the people being paid to recognize this stuff (front office, coaches) have stubbornly insisted upon playing him out of position for the 2nd season now. I feel bad for the kid. His natural playing weight is about 245. There's no way he can match up strength/weight-wise with 310+ lb OLs. He gets swallowed up and owned in tight quarters and blocked into oblivion. He needs to be a LB where his speed and motor can be utilized and that's obvious to everyone.

    Too late for this year. That could/should have been transitioned in the offseason when he could have started learning coverage in OTAs and camp. Dumb....
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    Can you think of a player who successfully transitioned from DL to OLB? Would you give him a new contract on the assumption that he can do this?
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    I hate this crap of pounding a square peg into a round hole. Lovie did it a number of times. Like trying to make Devin Hester a #1 wide receiver because he couldn't play his drafted position of cornerback. He was a solid return guy in college, so why not just keep him there? Under Lovie, they'd get a guy who on paper SHOULD be a great athlete because of his "measureables" and then "try to find a position he could play" no matter how crappy the player was at that position.

    Man, if a draftee can't play well at the NFL level, then he can't play. It's a draft mistake. Take your lumps, cut your losses & move on. Yes, that sucks, but it's a draft mistake. McClellen just looks like an NFL bust. There will be no miracle playing him at LB or anywhere else.
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    In McClellin's the draft report, it says he is best suited as OLB in a 3-4 scheme. But, they also predicted he was 5th round material.
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    I had to laugh when I read this. Not laughing at you at all, but the Bears crazy logic of drafting a guy rated a 5th round talent (for a 3-4 defense LB), and spending a 1st round pick - to end up getting a bust at DE. How flawed is THAT logic? o_O

    They whiffed on this guy. It's the defense version of our 1st round whiffs on Chris Williams & Gabe Carimi.
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    Don't think we will be moving to the 3-4 just to find McClellin a spot on the team. They need to move on because he simply is not going to be an effective DE for us.
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    That's my thinking on this too. They probably can't cut him at the moment because we are in such bad shape on DL, that basically, anyone with a pulse is a "warm body" to have there. The "plane is in the air" for this season, and we really can't swap out too many engines while in-flight. I just hope our season doesn't go down in flames due to the DL disaster.
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    Just HOW should the situation be addressed ? Tucker is not a player and can only do so much with what he has to work with. The real problem is that the Bears are in Cap Hell and can't bring in a FA good enough to be a upgrade on the "D" Line.
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    I'm done with Peppers and McGlellin. Play Bass and CornWash at DE. If they don't produce any better than Pep and McClellin, then I will shut up. My point: The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. By that def, Tucker is insane.

    As for getting a quality DE free agent, it is possible to free up cap money, but you have to make some moves: trades, cut players, renegotiate contracts, etc. Do whatever it takes to get a blue-chip pass rusher by draft or FA. That's my #1 off-season priority.
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    The Bears have one of the best, if not THE best Cap specialist in the NFL. If it is realistically possible to free up enough space to bring in a FA who would be a upgrade I believe they would have done so by now. I think that Peppers may have a injury issue that we are not aware of at this time and with all the injuries on the line there isn't anyone to force the opposition to take the pressure off him (double / triple team him). I'm not willing to put that all on Tucker just yet. As the saying goes "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" and the Bears just don't have the depth at this time. I agree that they should give Bass & CornWash a look though. Next man up. I'm sure that the draft will be "D" line heavy next spring but wanting to do everything at once right now is just not realistically possible with the constraints put on Emery by the past administration. At least the "O" is shaping up this season and I'm encouraged by that.
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