Three Post 1st Round Safeties....................

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    Jimmie Ward – Safety – Northern Illinois

    Size – 5106 – 197 – 4.49
    Strong Points – Productive, instincts, run support and tackle, can play man on a slot, zone, ball reactions and hands, range
    Weak Points – Has a foot injury that requires surgery and will prevent him from doing any private workouts, lacks ideal size for the position, doesn’t play to timed speed
    2013 Stats: 95 total tackles, seven interceptions, one sack


    Summation - Ward is a fourth-year senior and a three-year starter for the Huskies. As a freshman in 2010, he played in every game and was an outstanding special teams' performer with three blocked kicks. He became a fulltime starter at safety in 2011


    In 2012 tape, he played closer to the line of scrimmage, in short, he was more of a box safety. He still played deep at times and was put in man coverage situations on an inside receiver. In 2013, while he still played up tight at times, it wasn’t as often. He was still used to cover inside receivers.


    Ward has good athleticism. He is quick with good change of direction, a good turn, and good overall body control. He timed 4.49 at his pro day, but I don’t see that speed on the field. He played more like a 4.55 type.


    Ward is a quick reactor with good instincts. He shows good anticipation and is around the ball. He is effective as a run support player, showing the ability to take on and shed blocks and is a consistent tackler. He is used to blitz at times and does a good job coming off the edge. When in man coverage, he shows the turn and mirror skills needed. He has a good jam and does well versus shorter routes. He doesn’t have the long speed to consistently cover deep, but has good ball reactions and closes well to make plays.


    In zone, he shows good awareness. He has the anticipation and range to get to the sideline from the hash. For the most part, he keeps plays in front of him and does not get beaten deep. I did see him blow a coverage in their Bowl game versus Utah State. He was beaten deep but was able to recover and get the PBU.


    Overall, Ward has the instincts and skills to be an eventual starting strong safety in the NFL. He lacks ideal size, and the fact that he needs foot surgery will hurt his draft value. I see him as a solid third round type, with the injury potentially dropping him to the fourth.


    Grade B 6.6



    Ed Reynolds – Safety – Stanford


    Size –
    6010 – 207 – 4.57
    Strong Points – Size, anticipation, instincts, zone coverage, hands, run support
    Weak Points – Production fell off in 2013, play speed, man cover, just adequate range
    2013 Stats – 87 total tackles, one interception, four passes broken up

    Summation – Reynolds is a fourth-year junior and a two-year starter. He redshirted in 2010 and missed the entire 2011 season with an ACL injury. He came back to start in 2012 and 2013 and had six interceptions in 2012. His dad played in the NFL for both the Patriots and Giants.

    Reynolds has ideal safety size at 6010 – 207, but he is just an average athlete with average play speed. He timed 4.57 at the combine but plays like a 4.60+ type. He is an average athlete, has good body control and change of direction, but lacks any quick twitch to his movement. He is not explosive, as evidenced by his jumps (32.5, 9’9”).
    He plays free safety and has good instincts and anticipation. He reads things well and does a good job keeping plays in front of him. He does an adequate job getting to the sideline from the hash in zone because of his ability to read plays. He has good ball skills to go along with good hands. His interception production really fell off in 2013, getting only one after having six in 2012.

    He isn't asked to play much man coverage, as he lacks the quick twitch and suddenness needed. He is best if matched up versus a back or tight end, as he can struggle with a fast receiver. He is willing in run support, reacting quickly and is a consistent tackler.

    Reynolds is the prototypical over-achiever. He is not a special athlete but he is a good football player. He gets by on his instincts and toughness and has the ability to be an eventual starter in the right situation. He should probably have stayed in school another year.

    Grade – B 6.5


    Deone Bucannon – Safety – Washington State

    Size
    – 6010 – 211 – 4.49
    Strong Points – Very good size, interception production, run support, can try to be physical, zone coverage, plays on special teams' coverage units
    Weak Points – Misses a lot of tackles (seven in first three games viewed), doesn't consistently take good angles, has some tightness in his hips, not playing to timed speed
    2013 Stats – 114 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, six interceptions for 110 return yards

    Summation – Bucannon has been a starter since midway through his freshman year at Washington State. He has excellent size at 6010 – 207 to go along with very good timed speed (4.49 at combine). While he tests out very well, he doesn’t play that way. He looks more like a 4.55 guy on tape and has some tightness in his hips that hurts his ability to turn quickly in man coverage.

    Bucannon has good, not great instincts. He will misdiagnose some things, and at times, can be a little late to read. Still, he is often around the ball and makes plays.

    He is usually a good run support player who will come up and try and make plays in the box. He can get out of control and is not a top tackler. While he makes a lot of tackles, he also misses a lot. He doesn’t wrap up and often lowers his head and loses sight of his target.

    When in coverage, he is best in zone. He gets depth and usually does a good job keeping plays in front of him. He has range and awareness. I saw a couple of interceptions where a teammate was beaten, yet he got over to make the play. He has good hands and can adjust to the ball.

    He is inconsistent in man. He doesn’t have the hips or suddenness needed to mirror with any consistency. He is best versus shorter routes. He can struggle with a speedy, athletic receiver, and his transition is just average.
    Bucannon is an interesting guy. He makes plays and is aggressive but he also gives up or misses too many plays. He has to settle down and concentrate more. I see him as a strong safety at the next level with a solid chance to be an eventual starter. He should go somewhere in the third or fourth round.

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    Here are three SS or FS rated to go in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Their scouting reports are none to impressive and seem to fit that type of players with flaws the Bears have been drafting as Safeties for many years. Of the three Jimmie Ward seems to have the kind of athleticism and basic skills Emery looks for but some impending surgery may be of concern. Ordinarily he might be a high to mid second round pick but the surgery may drop him back a round or two. In rounds three or four he'd be a steal.
     
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    Interesting. No one has any comments on any of these guys. If we draft a DT in one I'd be almost certain one of these guys will be drafted as a Safety. I know they've spoken with both Ward and Bucannon.
     
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    Mark Carrier doing anything?
     
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    I really think we need to draft either Clinton-Dix or Pryor with the #14 pick.

    Here's why--Safety is not nearly as deep as Defensive Line or Cornerback in this year's draft. The dropoff is steep after Clinton-Dix and Pryor whereas you can get good quality defensive linemen and cornerbacks in the 2nd round and later.

    Also, take a closer look at the 1st round defensive linemen that may be available at #14. Aaron Donald is just way too undersized. He's tiny which doesn't translate well to the NFL. He would get manhandled by NFL offensive linemen. Hageman and Ealy are projects and Jernigan doesn't impress me either.

    This is why we need to go Safety at #14 and draft a DT like Kelcy Quarles in the 2nd round. We need a good ball-hawking Safety to help offset the passing attacks that the Lions and Packers have.
     
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    I watched quite a bit of ward and liked what I saw for the most part. Can't remember exactly what the nature of his foot injury was though.
     
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    Maybe we can hire him as a player coach. At 45 he's getting a little long in the tooth though. LOL

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    Mark Anthony Carrier, III is a retired American football safety who played in the National Football League. He is the current defensive backs coach for the Cincinnati Bengals.wikipedia.org
     
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    This. Also I keep hearing that it's possible that Houston is going to play more DT then he is DE, so that would put a guy like Donald, at 14, in a 4 man rotation, and the team still needs DE help. But a guy like Pryor or Dix are going to be day 1 starters and not likely to come off the field very often.
     
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    I don't know that the drop off is quite as bad as all that. These guys all lack the skills of an elite Safety and with the #14 pick I'd like to get an elite player. As an inside pass rusher Donald appears to be all that and a big of chips and he's not very "tiny" either. He goes 285-288lbs and Quarles goes 293-298 lbs so it's all of a 5-10lbs difference and that won't make any difference at 3 tech. I wouldn't be unhappy with Quarles but I'd probably be happier with Donald. For a 3 tech DT in the Bears 4-3 scheme he's the better fit.
     
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    He did have one heck of a rookie year with us!
     
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