Trestman whiffs on chance to make point

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  1. Henry Burris

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    wow, we just posted that at the same time, with the same opinion lol. Yeah, even if Trestman were the guy to do that, verbally kicking the dog**** out of a bad player isn't going to make a point, but, say if Urlacher were still in his prime, calling him out on a bad play in front of the other players would let you know this coach is not one to mess with.
     
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    The point with Webb--and we all know this--is that he has all the physical tools to be a solid, even very good, OT. He's even had games where he played to that level. His problem is almost entirely mental. His lack of focus, dedication, and self-discipline has become legendary among those who know and follow the team. It's not that he's just a "bad player" who can't cut it physically. It's that he pretty much chooses to be bad and refuses to apply himself fully to his job at a professional level.

    I have no problem calling a player like that out. Especially indirectly. I don't think he's been "made an example of" here (maybe ERod was to some extent a few months ago). I think he is finally being held accountable. Based on what Kromer just said--which was much more forceful than Trestman's wishy-washy nonsense a few days ago--Webb has basically lost his starting job already and is now fighting for the swing T spot. Pretty damning.
     
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    It makes me even angrier that we ever had Tice as our coordinator, because someone else MIGHT have pushed Webb to adopt a better work ethic, and he might be useful to the current administration.
     
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    He has just become polite with all those years in canada.lol The problem was webb not trestman, trestman did his job and moved him. This reporter must just be trying to justify his paycheck.
     
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    That's hard to say, Henry. As much as Tice pissed me off last year, I'm not sure I can blame him for J'Marcus Webb being an immature mental midget who didn't take his job seriously. Look at this season for example. Lovie and Tice are gone and a new coaching staff is in place with a new offense and blocking scheme. You would think a veteran professional athlete in his contract year would train his butt off in the offseason, learn the playbook cold, and come into camp ready to impress the new coaches and nail down his starting job.

    Instead Webb is still making the same old mental mistakes/lapses and still paying more attention to social networking than to his freakin job. Not sure you can blame Tice for that.
     
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    Isn't that Bushrod's specialty?
     
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    Scott didn't play any better than Carimi did last fall and Scott was playing healthy and Carimi wasn't. The bottom line here is that if Emery thinks he sees something special in Scott he's no more correct than Tice was for seeing something special in Webb. Right now what it looks like to me is that Emery is simply defending his decision to re-sign Scott and let Carimi go in EXACTLY the same way Tice defended Webb. I'm sorry Ric but his thinking it doesn't make it right.

    IMHO Webb and Scott should both be gone and I'd be fine with Mills and Britten on the right side. Yeah it's a risk but those two at least have some upside. Webb is in a downward spiral again and Scotts ship has already sailed. If you're a good starting caliber NFL OT you don't bounce around the league like he has. Something's missing in him or Pitt would never have let him go. Those guys hold onto the OL the draft like a miser holds onto a buck.

    We just need to wipe the right side of that line out and start over just as we're doing on the left side. With the exception of Garza those guys are all young enough and promising enough to start growing into a starting unit with quality backups. These are the guys Kromer can mold into a decent line. Scott isn't anything more than a stop gap solution and Webb will never get over his inconsistencies. Let's move on with the others and build the line from there. Look at who you had playing left to right last year and then look at who you have this year and there is no way in hell this bunch could be anywhere near as bad. But talent and skills alone don't get it done. They need to play some games together and become a working unit.

    Here's my starting five and backups. Starters; Bushrod, Slauson, Garza, Long, Mills, Backups; Brown and Britten (or it could go Brown/Britten on the right side with Long and Mills as backups but those are the seven I dress on game day. Then keep a couple more OL on the PS after cuts have been made. We may even find a prospect or two from another team we can steal.
     
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    I find it hard to disagree with much here ^^^^.

    From what I've read, they see Scott > Britton as a backup LT and Britton as mainly an RT rather than swing guy (hear he struggled badly at LT in camp). But, agreeing with Soul, I don't understand why they love Scott so much. He was merely so-so at best filling in last year, has never been more than a journeyman, and is now hurt.

    I'm fed up with Webb and his lackadaisical attitude. I want him out of the starting lineup (if they keep his as the swing T that's fine). Lets go with someone who has a chance to be better because Webb is now all he's ever going to be.
     
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    Soul, I didn't AGREE w/his thinking...I'm merely pointing OUT his thinking and what has happened. I wanted Carimi to stay much like I did Izzy, but they are not deal breakers, Carimi right now is struggling to win a starting spot in TB from a guy w/1 year experience in college football. The Hebrew hammer wasn't the difference maker you think he was/is.

    I think you might well be right, but not the entire right side, just the RT spot. Long, even if not this year, should be good to go next year. At that point it's just a matter of getting a RT in either FA or the draft or preferably both.

    I didn't like Scott so much either, but it is what it is, the team likes him(regardless of accuracy). I agree w/you on the starting five/backups but I think it's going to be Webb since he can play(even if it's horribly) both LT and RT and Britton cannot. The reality is the swing T is going to be Scott or Webb. I think Britton as a T is out of the question right now.
     
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    What's really annoying is that Eric Winston was there for the taking, but we kept Webb, because one would logically assume someone whose job is on the line would care to try to f******* fight for it.
     
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