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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by Jimmors, Sep 22, 2013.
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Yeah, i think losing Izzy was huge.
I agree that Wootton is playing a little better than McClellin, but still not what we need from either of them, especially with Peppers under-performing. As an experiment on passing downs, I'd slide Wootton inside to tackle and play CornWash at LE. Corny is still a raw prospect but he brings far more speed and power to the DE position than either of these guys. I wouldn't expect great things from him this season, but let's give him some game experience to try to get him to a level where he can be a contributor next season. Wootton is on the last year of his contract, and they need to do something with Peppers $84 million contract to afford Cutler's $$$ contract extension. There will be changes to the DL next year as we did this year to upgrade the OL. I'd like to get more on-field evaluation of the DL reserves, especially Corny, to get a better idea of what we have/don't have to build on. I wouldn't recommend this if the starting front-4 were performing well, but they are not.
Checking the stats...
We are getting the most performance from Paea and Collins. Worst from Peppers. He needs to step it up big-time.
Gotta be careful with stats. They don't always tell the entire picture. Last night, I went back and rewatched the DL, and in particular focused on Peppers. The part those states don't show, is that he's getting double-teamed pretty regularly, and sometimes a 3rd man is chipping him after he fights past the double teams. That doesn't show up in the statistics, but it's what is happening.
Paea and Collins on the other hand, are not having to fight two and three men. They SHOULD be getting higher stats.
So? He's been double-teamed most of his career. You think Smith, Watt etc aren't getting double-teamed? They split the double=team and make the sack. That's what Peppers used to do. He's getting old.
He is getting old, no arguing that. What I can say though is atleast he still CAN draw the double team which helps others and you can't really say that about anyone else on the DL. He had some good pressures and came up big this past week in the end. I'd give him a few more weeks before I throw in the towel. Will he be here in 2 years? No way, but he is still one of the best we have on the line for now.
I'm just trying to give a bigger picture here, David. I did watch Peppers play again last night, just trying to be objective, for may own sake. I was curious. The guy is still an exceptional player. But you are right, he is getting older. But he still plays the game at a very high level. When he has to fight through double teams, and sometimes gets chipped by a third player on his way to the QB, it's not like the guy is a bum all of a sudden. He is still putting heat on the QB. Don't take my word for it, watch the games objectively, and see for yourself.
Let's be concerned about the DL, but keep in mind we still have some good players there. Pep is one of them.
Well said. I completely agree with you.
I haven't watched the replay, but, regardless whether you or this guy is correct about how often Peppers was getting doubled, my point is that he is getting paid the big bucks to beat double-teams and make plays. Granted,we have only 3 games worth of data, but so far it ain't happenin' much.
I understand. I really am hoping the DL gets better. We all do.
I just watched some replay. Nobody has mentioned yet what a big play it was for Bush to get in the end zone on 4th down. He was met dead-on but got in with second effort. He's a horse! I thought he scored once or twice before in that series. Trestman is still calling pass plays from the 2-inch line! Give the damn ball to Bush, please.