We are NOT going to a 3-4

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  1. Henry Burris

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    Emery: Cutler evaluation ongoing, Bears 4-3 defense is not

    October 31, 2013, 9:00 am

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    By William Randolph Hearst

    The Bears’ evaluation of quarterback Jay Cutler remains a study in progress. But whatever the troubles with the Bears defense, the strategic direction is not changing: The defense plays a 4-3 base defense and is going to stay that course.

    Besides giving continued signs that the organization views Cutler as the franchise quarterback, even as the evaluation process is ongoing, general manager Phil Emery made clear on Thursday morning during an appearance on “The Mully & Hanley Show” on WSCR-AM that the Bears will not be following the New Orleans Saints, Philadelphia Eagles and others in adopting a 3-4 defensive scheme.

    The Bears have only a handful of players who would make smooth transitions to a 3-4. Shea McClellin fits the physical profile of a 3-4 linebacker but the Bears have no linemen other than perhaps Julius Peppers, at age 33, who have the size to be a 3-4 lineman.

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    Emery was in Kansas City when the Chiefs converted and while some players made the transition, others like defensive end Turk McBride could not. “You don’t want to have too many of those ‘can’t make the transition’ guys,” Emery said.

    Emery did not bring it up, but changing to a 3-4, which coordinator Mel Tucker has coached elsewhere during his career, also would require coaching-staff changes as well as player personnel. The techniques for the defensive line are different in most 3-4’s, where the down-linemen play two-gap scheme, vs. the current Bears system that is a one-gap, upfield-speed style. Inside linebackers typically have a separate position coach as well.

    Emery also said that the timetables for Cutler returning from his torn groin (four weeks) and linebacker Lance Briggs from his fractured shoulder (six) were “accurate.” Both players have indicated hopes of playing sooner than those estimates but Emery was pleased at the positive mindsets of both.
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    Geezus Henry I hope we dont go to 3-4 since we are at 4-3.

    Can the NFL deduct games from us?
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    Whatever Seattle runs; I want that. I would be happy with a clone. How did they get so good so quickly? Good drafting?
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    fine, but it is time to scrap the Cover-2 for something less predictable and infinitely more aggressive.
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    Since, for the 838th time, we ARE NOT GOING TO A 3-4, can the Bears get realistic about Shea not being a DE???
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    Great drafting AND d-coordinators/coaches who actually preach an aggressive and unpredictable defense philosophy....geee...imagine that?!!!!!!!
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    how 'bout a compromise? The fans will FINALLY accept that we are not switching to a 3-4 when Emery and Co. FINALLY accept that Shea DOES NOT BELONG ON THE DL.
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    I agree. They are a physical and intimidating team. They sure ended Johnny Knox' career in a heartbeat. I was at that game. One of the most vicious hits you'll see. Like a bug hitting a windshield. Even their offense plays like that. They unload on you. Bigtime.

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    Swing and a miss.
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    i don't necessarily have a preference. Both can work with the right coaches and players. I just want to see an aggressive, hard hitting D that puts opponents on their heals. Either flavor can do that if done right. I do like the idea of big guys clogging up the middle because let's face it, the new O's all have pretty big guys trying to move those DL.
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    I am with BIH, I don't care which scheme they use. I just want aggressive performance when the defensive team is on the field. I would like to see us pick up a couple of big defensive linemen in the draft.

    Regarding his comments...Emery really can't say anything during the season, so what happens come spring is still up in the air. Because we have so much of our players under contract review, if we make a change this is the year to do it.
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    The team doesn't have the positions NOW to run that scheme, but when you look at who's under contract and who can walk, and who might well get cut, that changes it quite a bit. A major overhaul has to be done on the D regardless of scheme, so why pigeon hole at the end of the season into this or that or another? Tucker is here next year regardless and has worked w/both a 3-4 and 4-3. Get him talent and let him run w/it.
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    Not to mention that Bostic is a Gator, a team that just happens to run a 3-4 Hybrid. That, plus Shea, and DJ Williams and James Anderson both having experience in both 4-3 and 3-4 tells me that Emery is planning ahead, if not switching to 3-4, at least having a 3-4 hybrid.

    I think Melton is going to walk (especially if we are tagging Cutler), and who knows what is going to happen with Peppers. In any case, this coming off season will be very telling depending on what Emery does in FA and the Draft.
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    Ya I'm not saying they are going one way or another, but this seasons personel really doesn't say one way or another b/c of how few people are under contract this coming offseason.
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    excellent points, Riczaj01. As you so eloquently noted: 1-Bunch of D-guys ain't gonna be back next year 2-D is in need of a MAJOR OVERHAUL anyway soooooo, why not consider switching things up from a schematic perspective?! I am going to be honked off if we are still running Lovie's beloved Cover-2 next season! :mad:
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    Well this year the team allowed the players to go w/what they know, next year won't be the same. Even if it's still a 4-3, I don't know that it will be a cover 2, not sure what Tucker ran in the past, but I don't believe it was the same as Lovie.
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    I would prefer a hybrid, but I am fine with sticking with a 4-3 base, as long as we bury the Cover-2 where it belongs!
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    I don't care what they do, as long as it fits the personel they bring in.
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    Well on that point, we disagree. The Cowardly Cover-2 belongs on the scrap heap of history, along with women wearing pantsuits!!! :laundry:
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    BMG, every team uses the Cover 2, but most don't use it as a base, and I would perfer they go away from it, but it's whatever suits the talent.

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