Week 4: Bears lose. Who gets the deflated football?

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Who gets the deflated football?

  1. Mark Trestman

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  2. Jay Cutler

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    53.8%
  3. The Defense

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    2.6%
  4. The whole F'n team

    15 vote(s)
    38.5%
  5. Other

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  1. Mr. Deliverance

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    I don't like Cutler. Have seen enough of him that it would be absolutely OUTRAGEOUS to extend him to a $10 - $15 million annual deal, at the current rate. However, I prefer a 16 game assessment of this guy. So I'll wait and see how he performs the rest of the way.
     
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    Mr D, and that's why I was not going to talk mid season extension talks, and why I'm not willing to say they will live life w/out Cutler next year. It's way to early. But fans have been to enamoured w/his 4th qtr and not his overall play, and his overall play hasn't been great by any stretch; and this game was still a stinker.

    BiH, sorry I just have to disagree w/ya. The D asked Tucker to keep the system in place and Tucker and the rest of management was okay w/it. Lovie and his DL, until Hot Rod got here went through a few years of problems, Hot Rod and big money FA Peppers came in and fixed it. Well now Hot Rod is gone, Lovie is gone, and Peppers is not a hot FA anymore, but a nearing retirement Vet. The DL w/Peppers, Melton, Paea, and Wootton and Shea should STILL be able to get pressure, but if they cannot that is not on the coaches, that is on the players, and if the front 4 cannot, then the cover 2 will not work, and the reason they are playing cover 2 is also on the players.
     
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    I'm curious to see how he responds from here on in. In fact, if Cutler really is a good QB...then he'll play outstanding against the Saints at home. Its what I expect to see if he really is a good QB.

    I will say this though...this was a real tough road game. People are too caught up with that Lions record from last year. They are a talented team and they have an outstanding DL. If you win the game in the trenches, its going to be hard for your QB to play well. And for all the trash people talk about Suh...he and fairley showed what a dominant force they are together.
     
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    I said it last year and this year, that team is good, it's the fact they are head cases(hc, stafford, suh) that prevent them from winning. Stafford playing w/in himself, CJ, the TE duo they have, and now Bush, as well as a fully retooled OL makes them a very dangerous team. Don't count that GB game as an auto loss for them by any means.

    I agree, and that Saints D is much improved, still not great, but the Det 2ndry isn't anything special, Cutler has to get back to playing w/in himself and taking what the D gives him and not forcing it. If he does that the Bears could well pull out a win tomorrow.
     
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    Cutler made too many mistakes and in the end, it was too much to come back from. We all should know and accept that he will make mistakes, every QB does, he needs to continue improving like he has... remember that Cutler would have probably performed significantly worse in a bad outing like today, so there is some improvement IMHO. The positive that I see is... at least Cutler's lows aren't as low as previous seasons. This probably because his supporting cast is better.

    I do think some people are freaking out unnecessarily as well. Bad games happen to even the best QBs, it's too soon (in this new scheme and with this new supporting cast), to think the sky is falling. The Lions are a much improved team and deserve some credit for a good game. This doesn't excuse Cutler's bad showing, but let's not make knee-jerk reactions either.
     
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    That's probably the best way to look at it (Cutler). The Detroit DL is incredible. It just grinds salt into the wounds today - because our DL is a train wreck.

    I agree the best way to make a final judgement on Jay Cutler is to review his entire body of work at the end of the season. Then make a decision. Trestman has a lot of work to do with this team. The heck of it is, I truly think today's game was "winable" but we gave it away with the turnovers and failure to move the chains on offense.
     
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    The problem with Cutler's mistakes is that he just consistently commits them during critical times in the game or during times when the Bears have momentum going for them and he just breaks the team's back with his arrogance, thinking he can make every throw.
     
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    A poor DL is the "kiss of death" for our defense for the season. Trying to fix it after 4 regular season games is like trying to change the engines on an aircraft in flight with a load of scared passengers aboard. Nothing good going to come of that one.

    Looks to me like Shea was a mistake in the draft. Pep is getting old and not what he once was. Melton was a key loss (on a line that already was not so good). Could be a long season.
     
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    Looks like it's gonna be the offense's job to carry the team if the defense doesn't improve. Time to see if the offense is (finally) up to the task.
     
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    One other thing. You could see that look in Jay's eyes today that comes when "Bad Jay" has arrived in a game. Do you guys see it? Rex Grossman used to get his version of "The Look" too. When you saw it - you knew - that the guy was going to fall apart in that game (Rex and Jay both). I could see it in Jays eyes today. "The Look"

    I think it's a "fear" look. But who knows. I just know that when he gets it, we're toast in that game.
     

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