Week 4: Bears lose. Who gets the deflated football?

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Who gets the deflated football?

  1. Mark Trestman

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  2. Jay Cutler

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  3. The Defense

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  4. The whole F'n team

    15 vote(s)
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  5. Other

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    5.1%
  1. Mr. Deliverance

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    The Bears wanted McNabb and not having a real GM at the time, opted for the McClown show. As for Rex...anyone that watches college football knows you don't draft Florida QBs. Grossman never should have been a Bear if our people did their homework. He flopped in every big, meaningful game at Florida.

    Bears could of had Rodgers but instead they wanted that idiot Cedric Benson, to try and do what Thomas Jones was already doing.

    The college game has evolved so much from the days of McClown & Grossman. These QBs come out better groomed and equipped to handle the NFL game. And the '14 draft class is the deepest pool of QB talent, arguably ever.

    Cutler being the 'best' QB the Bears have had for decades is just an indictment of how horrible the Bears are at finding a QB. And you don't use that as a reason to hold onto a guy at over $10 million a season to deliver subpar performances year after year. Its just madness to let this guy hold this franchise hostage, simply because the Bears have never had football people that know a shred about unearthing QBs. We do now. And we don't need to live out this Cutler nightmare year after year. That money is better spent elsewhere.
     
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    I shouldn't even read these threads within 48 hours of a team win or loss. You guys are just on an emotional roller coaster, and need to wait until the ride ends. Cutler made some mistakes today. Big deal. The first pick goes to Alshon for not working across the safety's face. Second and third pick are absolutely on Jay, as well as the sack fumble, holding the ball down around his knees. But did any of you guys bother to watch the last 8 minutes? The team showed excellent fight in trying to get back into the game, and if Robbie Gould could do a proper onside kick, we had a low chance but the possibility of tying the game. Did you watch either of the last two Giants games? Those teams QUIT, ours did not, in a very hostile environment when they had been taken to the proverbial woodshed. Jay made some mistakes, but he and the rest of the team fought back hard, and you could see Trestman got that as well. Stop over reacting folks, this wasn't game sixteen with the playoffs on the line. Did you guys see the superbowl MVP throw 5 picks today? What a stinker, I'll bet they are calling for his head too.....
     
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    Last 8 min's when Det wasn't playing anymore? Ya sorry that doens't count when looking at anything but the final score, the game was over.
    Gould did look awful on the onside kick; but reality is that if you are relying on the onside kick you're not likely going to win regardless, outside of two near impossible plays to make Gould was money.
    It's Alshon's fault b/c Jay threw into triple coverage?!?!?!? C-mon man. Ya Alshon could have fought more for that ball, but reality is it should have NEVER been thrown. Other then that 1 play, Alshon was money and had the best day of any of our WR's.
    Meanwhile cutler had a 4 turn over game that, at minimum gave Det 10 points, he failed to get a 3rd down conversion when the game was still winnable.

    don't think it's over reacting about th egame JBunch, it was a laughable excuse for play top to bottom and fans were stunned by how poorly they played and looked. Now if you're talking about people saying Cutler doesn't get extended, well then ya, but it's one notch on that belt, he needs to play a lot more like he did in the 1st 3 games(really better) and have a whole lot less games like this.
     
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    You are making my point for me. For as long as I remember, the Bears have been lousy at filling the QB position. QB is a difficult position to draft, and it's easy to play the woulda/coulda/shoulda game with benefit of 20-20 hindsight. A lot of teams passed on Rodgers and Brady, foe example. Conversely, I've seen many high first-round QB picks --not just Bears -- totally flop. We should draft for defense in the first round, because Bears will be drafting middle-to-late in the round and no QB better than Cutler will be available. If I am wrong, then definitely take the kid at Texas A&M, but he will long gone. So, we'd be rolling the dice again on the next Grossman or McClown. No thanks. But I will change my mind if Cutler prices himself out of the market. He needs to leave enough cap room to rebuild the DL. The picture will be clearer by draft day.
     
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    This is not the previous Bears though David, you have a new McCaskey running HH, and he brought in Emery to run the football team, and Emery hired a guy to develop a qb, Cutler or anyone else. Emery and Trestmans job are to bring in and develop talent, if they cannot get the best out of Cutler, we should just keep Cutler b/c the past regime's couldn't draft a qb?

    That's basakwards thinking David; that same thinking would have kept Rex and Orton on the team instead of trading for Cutler.
     
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    Nope, I was thrilled by the Cutler trade. I knew we were getting the best QB in a Bears uniform in decades. There's a big difference between getting a proven player via trade or free agent vs. betting the farm on a late first-round QB draft prospect. Eventually, we may have to do that, but don't take that risk until forced into it by circumstances. That doesn't mean I wouldn't take a QB somewhere in the draft in 2014 -- but not #1 priority unless Cutler holds out for $100 million or such.
     
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    betting the farm? A bit over dramatic isn't it? Is that what GB did when they had Farve and got the likes of Rogers and Hassleback to name a few?
     
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    Cutler... 3 INT's? So many bad throws? Yea... you're gonna have a hard time if your QB plays like shit... How many times didn't one of our WR's/TE get wide open and Bad Jay either overthrow or underthrow it.. Would have been winable if he had played like he had done in the previous games.

    Anyone know why Good Jay deciced to stay home?


    Didnt pay much attention to the 4 quarter but when you are 0/7 on 3rd downs that's shit.
     
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    Just re-watched the game and everyone needs to take a deep breath because if your reading this that means it still a good day. Yes there was a lot of bad but believe it or not there was a lot of good as well. We have 2 legit #1 receivers and I believe in the near future the pupil will become the teacher and he already is in a way in Alshon. O line played well real well even though fumble which was all Jay's. Jay had some really bad throws but he also had a few really good throws that will be forgotten because he played so horrendous.

    D gave up to many major runs but stops were occurring and turnovers were occurring when needed. However, on a few turns the ball no bounce our way.

    O in the 4th quarter they ran the hurry up well and the O line was stellar we need to start trying to go to this earlier in the games. I know we tried this on the Bengals but than the O line wasn't as jelled as they are now. Cutty also was doing better with that play in the faster rhythm so it's time to retry this especially against Saints.

    So again not as bad as the doom and gloomers are saying slight meltdown but positives could be found. So when you 1st watch you think there's no hope but lot of good stuff was lost in this games overall play. This game was nothing even close to comparable to the SanFran meltdown.
     
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    I just think "one" game of "Old Jay" is cause for panic. I still say the Defense is more at fault overall. Sure Jay made a lot of mistakes, but overall the D has been weak from day one. I say we lost something when we lost Lovie, Marinelli and Urlacher. People are avoiding that, but that's the main difference this year.

    As far as Jay goes, I do say this is the MAKE or BREAK year for him. But like a lot of of fans here said, there are many more BAD years of QBs then good years for us. Sure this loss hurt, but imagine if we switch up quarterbacks now, it may be SEVERAL seasons before we get a great one. I'm not getting any younger, I'm tired of waiting.
     

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